Still if we had stayed in the EU I wonder how many we would have vaccinated by now?

Good point. Make a note of that Rishi. The spare money can go on the NHS and, what's left over, on The Border Force.

Red and Blue Army!

To give credit where it's due the vaccination part seems to be the one area they seem to have not colossally f*cked up! Fingers crossed they can keep it up.

Have to completely agree with your last sentence. Hope everything ok with the expectant parents

From what I heard SAGE did not say to lock down the country at the start. Secondly we don't pay data modellers....who are wildly inaccurate by the way....to make decisions on national policy. Even if they practically have all the way through this.

Also your belief that this virus could have been stopped or reduced in the country when its practically been a similar result everywhere the population density is broadly aligned.....the only real difference being in how the figures are put together...like I was saying earlier.

Well, I won't deny that Johnson has treated this the way he treats everything, flip flopping as he goes. However, as I said, the reality is that SAGE is directing this and government are rubber stamping it.

A unknown percent of those deaths will be because of the reaction to this pandemic and not the virus itself....suicides and other ailments that weren't treated in time due to non diagnoses and delays.

We don't have an unbiased picture at the moment.

While I think criticism of contracts is valid where it's proven to be corrupt I think your last sentence shows just over the top your reaction to this virus has been.

You will continue to get into your car and will continue to take all the other risks associated in life but you won't think about the risk because there was no man on the telly scaring you.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I don't know why people latch onto whatever the number is this week to make this point as if the current total is profoundly important or an end point. It was happening at 10,000 too on here if you go back and check. It's an arbitrary number on account of measures put in place (which people of course have different takes on) to keep the number down + vast portions of the population still haven't contracted the virus (but are susceptible to it). 50,000 died in the last two months. That might be a more noteworthy statistic with regard and highlight the unique problems this virus brings. With a 'let it ride' approach we'd have been looking at far higher numbers. If people feel that's a fair compromise then fair play, but it comes with accepting that reality.

What I will say is that I don't think they've ever really got the business - health balance right (clearly its unsustainable for certain businesses to be closed this long), but outside of the vaccine rollout, just about everything up been a botch job from the beginning so that shouldn't surprise us.

Edited by BlueJay (27 Jan 2021 7.21pm)