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 Stirlingsays  15 Jul 22 4.59pm |
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I think all any of us can ask is that medically it's looked into fairly and objectively by those with no connection to or fear of losing jobs in relation to the medical or pharmaceutical industries.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 15 Jul 22 5.06pm |
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The previously prevalent Government statitised data and guidance b0II0x, has now been superseded by a far more infectious strain of b0II0x from multiple sources.
"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak |
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| W12 15 Jul 22 10.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The previously prevalent Government statitised data and guidance b0II0x, has now been superseded by a far more infectious strain of b0II0x from multiple sources. Television viewers are particularly at risk from any new strain.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 22 11.51pm |
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Don't you understand, or do you just ignore, the fact that although the vaccines don't stop you catching the variants, they do mitigate the severity of the consequences? Just as a previous infection will, although its impact is probably not so long-lasting. Mitigating the consequences, and enabling the NHS to continue to function without collapsing first, is why we are asked to get vaccinated. Those who refuse to be vaccinated are demonstrating a selfish disregard for their fellow citizens. When they need NHS treatment, I would put them all at the back of the queue.
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| Eden Eagle Kent 16 Jul 22 11.52am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don't you understand, or do you just ignore, the fact that although the vaccines don't stop you catching the variants, they do mitigate the severity of the consequences? Just as a previous infection will, although its impact is probably not so long-lasting. Mitigating the consequences, and enabling the NHS to continue to function without collapsing first, is why we are asked to get vaccinated. Those who refuse to be vaccinated are demonstrating a selfish disregard for their fellow citizens. When they need NHS treatment, I would put them all at the back of the queue. I assume that using your logic you would also put overweight people to the back of the NHS queue along with smokers, motor cyclists, rugby players, anyone deemed to participate in a “dangerous activity” such as scuba diving, mountain climbing and so on… not sure who you would allow to be in the front of your mythical NHS queue?
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jul 22 12.01pm |
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grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 16 Jul 22 2.57pm |
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I'm surprised this is still going on its over move one. I know some people in here are still spreading the misinformation and they was the same which claimed this year we would see lockdown and mass deaths for unvaccinated well this hasn't happened has it. NHS is still in the same state it has been for decades covid has not changed that and its about time the govt put the managers in place many doctors practices plus hospitals are still following covid restriction rules. Edited by grumpymort (16 Jul 2022 4.18pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Jul 22 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
I'm surprised this is still going on its over move one. I know some people in here are still spreading the misinformation and they was the same which claimed this year we would see lockdown and mass deaths for unvaccinated well this hasn't happened has it. NHS is still in the same state it has been for decades covid has not changed that and its about time the govt put the managers in place many doctors practices plus hospitals are still following covid restriction rules. Edited by grumpymort (16 Jul 2022 4.18pm) I haven’t agreed with much of what you post but your nhs and doctors following covid rules is spot on. NHS is top heavy and over protected. A law unto themselves. Too big to succeed and too big to fail. An absolute money pit that wastes on a scale that is phenomenal. Many posters on here have experience of the waste but Russel square is a good march when any one in hmg suggests that maybe change is needed to at least be considered.
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| leifandersonshair Newport 16 Jul 22 6.41pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I haven’t agreed with much of what you post but your nhs and doctors following covid rules is spot on. NHS is top heavy and over protected. A law unto themselves. Too big to succeed and too big to fail. An absolute money pit that wastes on a scale that is phenomenal. Many posters on here have experience of the waste but Russel square is a good march when any one in hmg suggests that maybe change is needed to at least be considered. Can't believe this myth is still doing the rounds. NHS 'managers' make up approx 2% of the entire workforce. Average 'managers' across the UK workforce is almost 10% so the NHS is well below average on this front.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 16 Jul 22 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The previously prevalent Government statitised data and guidance b0II0x, has now been superseded by a far more infectious strain of b0II0x from multiple sources.
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| W12 17 Jul 22 6.26am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don't you understand, or do you just ignore, the fact that although the vaccines don't stop you catching the variants, they do mitigate the severity of the consequences? Just as a previous infection will, although its impact is probably not so long-lasting. Mitigating the consequences, and enabling the NHS to continue to function without collapsing first, is why we are asked to get vaccinated. Those who refuse to be vaccinated are demonstrating a selfish disregard for their fellow citizens. When they need NHS treatment, I would put them all at the back of the queue. You were told that the “vaccine” (it is not a vaccine) both stopped you getting a desease and stopped transmission and both were a lie. Then you were told it was highly effective and that was a lie. You were told this by people with commercial interests in seeing these injections proliferated. This is now just an article of faith with no supporting “the science”. The NHS was never near “collapsing” in 2020 hence numerous TikToc dance videos from bored clinicians. At the same time we paid for nightingale hospitals and numerous ventilators that were never used. But in 2022 we have excess mortality that cannot be explained. Stay stupid.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 17 Jul 22 7.12am |
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i think most of the posts on here are subjective, mine included. The media hype and Government 'data' died long ago, and was replaced by informed perspectives and personal experiences. I think there is little doubt the Government(who had access to the biggest dataset) were extremely selective in what was disclosed to the wider public. My own personal experiences has seen close friends get very ill with Covid and one of whom had their cancer treatment delayed/re-scheduled because of the Covid impact. My friends were fortunate there were no longer term impacts. Others have different stories to tell, who were not so lucky. The biggest personal data gathering event ever to take place in the UK was a massive success. You,...where you work,...who your friends are,....where you socialise,....medical records,...tracking your every move by your own mobile phone. The Government has so much new data about everyone it has to be the most comprehensive census ever. Suck it up.
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