The focus has been incorrect in my view. It should have been far more on implementing hygiene requirements and keeping far more of the economy going. We have never acted this way to any previous virus, which have had far higher death to infection rates.

If another one comes are we going to act like this? Somehow I doubt that this is the last we will see over the next decades.

The economy will recover? What like we have recovered from 2008? Have you really considered what would happen?...The world economy is already affected by this and a shutting down of months may bring in a lost decade. Consider that this spending is being placed upon unprecedented levels of existing debt caused via 2008.

I read that each percent of unemployment kills thousands and lowers life expectancy through various means. We will also disproportionally affect the young and economically active. Taxes will rise considerably, borrowing rates will go up and public spending will arrow down.....and it's not going to be temporary. I predict a lot of people are going to change their minds over this fairly quickly.

You could say I'm definitely in the 'cure is worst than the disease' camp.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2020 12.21pm)

The focus has been incorrect in my view. It should have been far more on implementing hygiene requirements and keeping far more of the economy going. We have never acted this way to any previous virus, which have had far higher death to infection rates.

If another one comes are we going to act like this? Somehow I doubt that this is the last we will see over the next decades.

The economy will recover? What like we have recovered from 2008? Have you really considered what would happen?...The world economy is already affected by this and a shutting down of months may bring in a lost decade. Consider that this spending is being placed upon unprecedented levels of existing debt caused via 2008.

I read that each percent of unemployment kills thousands and lowers life expectancy through various means. We will also disproportionally affect the young and economically active. Taxes will rise considerably, borrowing rates will go up and public spending will arrow down.....and it's not going to be temporary. I predict a lot of people are going to change their minds over this fairly quickly.

You could say I'm definitely in the 'cure is worst than the disease' camp.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2020 12.21pm)

You know I agree there comes a time when cure is probably worse than disease and the way I see it is probably vulnerable stay in or risk it and everyone else goes back to work.

But if we hadn’t done the lockdown the deaths would spiral out of control in not only coronavirus casss because of hospital and bed capacity. Brits can’t take being told anything as you say. I doubt they’d immediately respond to hygiene instantly either. Blokes never wash their hands, even with piss on them.

We need the kits and the curve to downturn before stopping the lockdown.

You know I agree there comes a time when cure is probably worse than disease and the way I see it is probably vulnerable stay in or risk it and everyone else goes back to work.

But if we hadn’t done the lockdown the deaths would spiral out of control in not only coronavirus casss because of hospital and bed capacity. Brits can’t take being told anything as you say. I doubt they’d immediately respond to hygiene instantly either. Blokes never wash their hands, even with piss on them.

We need the kits and the curve to downturn before stopping the lockdown.

Without hospital care deaths absolutely explode. Hospitals must not be overloaded or many many otherwise healthy people will die.

I agree, we needed an initial lockdown to implement the isolating of the vulnerable while still setting up systems for them. We needed a strong advertising and governmental campaign....which we have had....to inform and but we haven't enforced the hygiene standards for work places and retailers and so on....for example insisting on hand sanitizers going into and out of a premises. We should have work teams going around disinfecting surfaces in their local environments every day....it should be the culture through this.

The different cultural practices within the UK with its various groups would mean different levels of infection almost certainly however the average age of death from this is late seventies and I know it's not sensitive to say it but many would have been on their last legs.

I fear the legacy this choices are going to place onto the economy....which in reality means people....many of whom are pay check to pay check and were never in serious threat from this virus....it will cause many more problems than many realise.

I seriously hope I'm wrong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2020 1.26pm)