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 Eaglecoops  CR3 04 Apr 20 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I was a regular attendee at Public Houses and enjoyed more than the odd tipple with sobriety not on the agenda. I have sacrificed biscuits and cakes for 'Lent' (I am partial to both) and I have been taking regular walks as part of my 'Daily Exercise'. Alas the change to my once normal routine is not reflected by a downward movement on my weighing scale.We are in 'Lockdown' but the scales have not gone down. Edited by Willo (04 Apr 2020 11.52am) This is the least I’ve drunk since I was hospitalised about 25 years ago and I have to admit I am the same as you, my weight has gone up if anything since I abstained. I’m tempted to say sod it and get back on it if it’s going to have this effect on a longer term basis.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 04 Apr 20 1.44pm |
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Unsure if this has been covered yet, but the thread is getting too sedate so why not. I see the usual morons are out and about trying to equate 5G masts with Coronavirus. Incredible. Essentially just repackaging the mobile phone, then 2G, 3G, 4G dross for... 5G! People think I’m unduly harsh to the general population but Christ alive. The earth is flat! Hopefully this episode is a good opportunity for some ruthless natural selection to occur. Edited by SW19 CPFC (04 Apr 2020 1.45pm)
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Teddy Eagle  04 Apr 20 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Unsure if this has been covered yet, but the thread is getting too sedate so why not. I see the usual morons are out and about trying to equate 5G masts with Coronavirus. Incredible. Essentially just repackaging the mobile phone, then 2G, 3G, 4G dross for... 5G! People think I’m unduly harsh to the general population but Christ alive. The earth is flat! Hopefully this episode is a good opportunity for some ruthless natural selection to occur. Edited by SW19 CPFC (04 Apr 2020 1.45pm) Not sure about this. Amanda Holden tweeted her suspicions recently. If a trusted scientific authority like her can’t be trusted then we’re in quite a pickle.
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| HeathMan Purley 04 Apr 20 1.52pm |
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There could be some system of gentle restoration of pub opening, based on the days in the month and letters in the alphabet, with spreading achieved by age, so that Roy would be allowed pub time on the eighth day of each month, between (over 70 10:30 to 11:30, 60 to 70 12:00 to 13:00; 50 to 60 13:30 to 14:30; 40 to 50 15:00 to 16:00; 30 to 40 16:30 to 17:30; 24 to 30 18:00 to 19:00; and 18 to 24 19:30 to 20:30) 10:30 and 11:30. Those without passports would not be allowed on licenced premises. I have to admit that all this time for thinking makes a difference - my comments could be said to make less sense than before.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Apr 20 1.57pm |
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Originally posted by HeathMan
There could be some system of gentle restoration of pub opening, based on the days in the month and letters in the alphabet, with spreading achieved by age, so that Roy would be allowed pub time on the eighth day of each month, between (over 70 10:30 to 11:30, 60 to 70 12:00 to 13:00; 50 to 60 13:30 to 14:30; 40 to 50 15:00 to 16:00; 30 to 40 16:30 to 17:30; 24 to 30 18:00 to 19:00; and 18 to 24 19:30 to 20:30) 10:30 and 11:30. Those without passports would not be allowed on licenced premises. I have to admit that all this time for thinking makes a difference - my comments could be said to make less sense than before. Some 'Lateral thinking' on this matter. Far better to keep the cerebral matter operational in such a manner in these troubled times than just being seated in an armchair viewing 'Love Island' and the like. I also have been giving consideration to possible scenarios apropos the re-opening of Public Houses but not to the detail as described in Heath Man's post.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Apr 20 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I think after reading your last few posts our positions are nowhere near as close on this as I'd erroneously thought. That's fine, I guess over time we are going to see the wisdom or not of what's happened. I certainly think that we should be doing what we’re doing but not for long. If people obeyed the rules the lockdown will be over and the sooner the better. When I hear someone (David Buik) who’s gained more from capitalism and is at the very front of the information say we should be doing what we’re doing but it has to be short lived then I feel even more confident that it’s the right thing to do. It sounds like this is being discussed by every LBC host today so it’s going to come into discussion, debate and public conscience. Let’s just hope that it doesn’t give people the idea that they take it upon themselves to end the lockdown so we don’t get to where the end goal is. I thought you agreed on A lockdown anyway, but not a long one. Mid April is what I remember you saying. Mine is a bit further along than that. A bit, but not so far along that poverty causes real hardship, deaths and more of them than the disease. We aren’t that far apart. Maybe you thought that from my agreement with DanH on the spike of deaths we would’ve faced. Many more cases, more healthy people without enough respirators would’ve died and the knock on effects we’ve discussed before.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Apr 20 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
Think you're being a bit too dismissive of it Stirling. Actually, I think we've got to hope that they're right as if we've all got to "pay for it" through taxation afterwards, with the huge numbers that will be unemployed, this country and most of the developed world will be bankrupt (not notionally, as now, but actually as in defaulting on National Debt). If austerity is re-imposed there'll be massive social unrest. The seeds of discontent are already well and truly sown across the UK and Europe, young versus old, haves versus have nots, wealthy versus not so wealthy, and were evident throughout Brexit, the French riots, Hong Kong (for another reason), Italy and Germany too to some extent. With the above factors and the need to blame someone for it all, when it's over in a way it's just beginning. At the moment everyone's holed up in their homes. When we're allowed out the repercussions will begin. It may not reach Civil war, but it may do, at least in the US, possibly here and across mainland Europe. And China and Russia will be watching on (not interfering, of course). The depths of the oncoming Depression could be as bad as 1929. And that period ultimately came to an end and the world was able to press the reset button, only after the events that happened just ten years afterwards. So, in a nutshell, I hope the MMT advocates are right because we can all just write this debt mountain off, for now. Who is MMT and where can I find out what you know? Thanks. And I don’t know the share of debt but plenty of debt investors and bind holders will need their repayments with interest or there’s no market to borrow from.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Apr 20 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by Pete53
Whilst having a leisurely breakfast in the garden in the sunshine this morning, my wife and I were just chatting about some of the upsides of the current situation (of course I am fully aware of all the sh*t as well). Most places are far more quiet and peaceful than normal.There are far far fewer cars on the roads.The pace of life has slowed allowing a lot of people to spend much more time with immediate family. We are getting all those outstanding household and garden jobs done. Very few planes coming over our property that sits under a Gatwick flight path. There will be other things that, at least for while, we won't take for granted ... freedom of movement, food supplies, the health service etc. I'm not even missing football that much, but I am sure I will appreciate it even more when one day it resumes. Every day is like a Sunday from a few decades ago. That’s what England is like now. Even down to youngsters being bored at home.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Apr 20 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been speculating with my dear wife about the timescale and conditions for the re-opening of Public Houses. We discussed the possibility of phased opening whereby establishments are perhaps opened for a few days a week, or they are open all week but for limited hours,however with such a scenario there us the possibility that they would become far more crowded than they would do if normal hours applied.Perhaps initially there will be restrictions on the number of customers that can enter the public houses.I just have a feeling that all will not return to normality for quite a while. Of course I have no idea of the range of options on the Government's exit plan in relation to the re-opening of these businesses. It is vary rare that I consume alcohol indoors.An old friend (Now sadly deceased) used to say "Drinking at home is like drinking in cold blood" and he saved his alcohol consumption for away from his abode. Edited by Willo (04 Apr 2020 1.22pm) In some countries still open it’s no nightclubs and drinks served at tables only.
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| Stirlingsays Online 04 Apr 20 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I certainly think that we should be doing what we’re doing but not for long. If people obeyed the rules the lockdown will be over and the sooner the better. When I hear someone (David Buik) who’s gained more from capitalism and is at the very front of the information say we should be doing what we’re doing but it has to be short lived then I feel even more confident that it’s the right thing to do. It sounds like this is being discussed by every LBC host today so it’s going to come into discussion, debate and public conscience. Let’s just hope that it doesn’t give people the idea that they take it upon themselves to end the lockdown so we don’t get to where the end goal is. I thought you agreed on A lockdown anyway, but not a long one. Mid April is what I remember you saying. Mine is a bit further along than that. A bit, but not so far along that poverty causes real hardship, deaths and more of them than the disease. We aren’t that far apart. Maybe you thought that from my agreement with DanH on the spike of deaths we would’ve faced. Many more cases, more healthy people without enough respirators would’ve died and the knock on effects we’ve discussed before.
However, my position was for lockdown only for the time it took to implement what isolation was possible for the vulnerable and NHS funding for provision, get the social distance message out and set up mandated hygiene systems. That would have seen us out of lockdown far earlier and minimized what's coming far more. We don't agree on actions based on 'the curve' which appears to be yours and the current majority position. But that's ok, I understand why you and others take that position. You think there would be hundreds of thousands dead otherwise. The thing is that other countries have taken far more liberal approaches so I guess we will find out. Sweden haven't implemented anything like the economic or police state like restrictions we have and I suppose time will show whether as a percentage the fears of yourself and many others are realised there.....but at the moment they have a lower death per million than us. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Apr 2020 2.31pm)
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Apr 20 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Every day is like a Sunday from a few decades ago. That’s what England is like now. Even down to youngsters being bored at home. They should start repeats of Stars on Sunday to let young people know how lucky they are to have missed it.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Apr 20 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
In some countries still open it’s no nightclubs and drinks served at tables only. This is of course an option which could be introduced with tables spaced apart.I had considered the possibility of table spacing in restaurants. I yearn for the day when I can imbibe some intoxicating liquid with friends and acquaintances in a Public House.
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