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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 9.46pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

More the growing debt burden from furlough schemes and purely to have a functioning economy that IS society.

Just the likes of the big Tory donors, like the weatherspoon bloke, all want to get back soon,,,,he who pays the piper names the tune!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 20 9.48pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Fair enough, then surely the people who attended should be fired for not informing the pm of the need for emergency measures and PPE? After all, they had 5 meetings to discuss the details.

Other countries had already bought up all the tests and PPE. How did germany test so many so quickly.
Merkel had the heads up as she was in china in December. Storage of billions of PPE is physically impossible as it does have a use by date. Care homes should have their own stocks the same as the nhs should have. They are happy to draw the dough but dont want responsibility for their clients.
The big elephant in the room is China clearly lying about their deaths and cases. If they had told others how bad it was in dec Jan then preparedness would have been better for everyone. Meetings about untruths wouldn't change a thing.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 20 9.49pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

or even a test!

And its cryrst

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 20 9.53pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

And when i say ill, i mean as ill as half the posters on here have said they think they had it in feb, jan, dec, etc, only boris was tested, and obviously as Chryrst said, is more important to the country than us, so had to go into hospital and icu where all the life saving equiptment is, as a precaution, maybe we all should have the luxuary of a text and a precautionary hospital bed , just in case?

Nope, you are definitely looking for spanners.
The most important man in the uk atm and he should queue like everyone else. Ffs he should have a ventilator in his bedroom just in case.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 9.57pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Other countries had already bought up all the tests and PPE. How did germany test so many so quickly.
Merkel had the heads up as she was in china in December. Storage of billions of PPE is physically impossible as it does have a use by date. Care homes should have their own stocks the same as the nhs should have. They are happy to draw the dough but dont want responsibility for their clients.
The big elephant in the room is China clearly lying about their deaths and cases. If they had told others how bad it was in dec Jan then preparedness would have been better for everyone. Meetings about untruths wouldn't change a thing.

Saw an interesting thing on channel 4 news yesterday, about the warehouse full of PPE the government have, it was like b an q, very impressive,until you saw the report,,,for the past ten years it had just existed fully stocked, nothing wrong with that i hear you say? Well, the thing is, these things have a shelf life, as you said, and they should have been sending out the stuff nearly out of date to the hospitals, and renewing with new stuff to go at the bottom of the line! The thing is they didn"t. so all the stuff had to be binned, out of date, unfortunately, we can"t blame the previous government for this, only the government in power for the past ten years!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 10.05pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Saw an interesting thing on channel 4 news yesterday, about the warehouse full of PPE the government have, it was like b an q, very impressive,until you saw the report,,,for the past ten years it had just existed fully stocked, nothing wrong with that i hear you say? Well, the thing is, these things have a shelf life, as you said, and they should have been sending out the stuff nearly out of date to the hospitals, and renewing with new stuff to go at the bottom of the line! The thing is they didn"t. so all the stuff had to be binned, out of date, unfortunately, we can"t blame the previous government for this, only the government in power for the past ten years!

Put the tool kit away cryrst, no spanners allowed for this one!

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 20 11.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I hope you are not believing these conspiracy theories, WE would be upset with you, we all know he doesn't believe in them.

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They are not conspiracy theories. They are rumours.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 May 20 12.13am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Just the likes of the big Tory donors, like the weatherspoon bloke, all want to get back soon,,,,he who pays the piper names the tune!

Not sure what you mean. The country and more people are screwed without a functioning economy. Some lefties might like it not to be but it’ll have to be. Everyone at risk will have to stay in or risk doing what they want to, possibly when people are working.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 May 20 4.15am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Saw an interesting thing on channel 4 news yesterday, about the warehouse full of PPE the government have, it was like b an q, very impressive,until you saw the report,,,for the past ten years it had just existed fully stocked, nothing wrong with that i hear you say? Well, the thing is, these things have a shelf life, as you said, and they should have been sending out the stuff nearly out of date to the hospitals, and renewing with new stuff to go at the bottom of the line! The thing is they didn"t. so all the stuff had to be binned, out of date, unfortunately, we can"t blame the previous government for this, only the government in power for the past ten years!

Because hospitals probably had enough stock for 'normal'times. This situation is very not that for sure. They had enough gloves, masks, aprons, ventilators etc. The NHS have their own procurement procedures for different areas and trusts. Why do you think the stuff in the warehouses was out of date. Probably because these trusts went elsewhere for their stock even though they must have known that warehouse was full for all those years. It's a bit like blairs devolution plan. Singing from different hymn sheets now when it would have been better singing from the same one. Both nationally and locally everyone has been given their own autonomy and now the proof is it isnt working. Too many chiefs, not enough indians.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 May 20 6.43am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They are not conspiracy theories. They are rumours.

Sorry I got confused when the report said Conspiracy Theory. Silly me

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 May 20 6.43am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I don"t buy the nearly died bit mate, thats a good sympathy line to go easy on him, he wasn"t on a ventilator and probably in icu as a precaution, but we will never know, for now anyway! On the cobra missing meetings, i can understand one or two, but not all five! Either he was not interested for whatever reason(bar almost dying), or the cobra team in place were all absolutely useless with no handle on the meeting and should all be pumped! Take your pick mate, but not the almost dying story!

Your posts smack more and more of desperation as you seek to rubbish the government's performance in every way you can

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 May 20 6.46am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Just the likes of the big Tory donors, like the weatherspoon bloke, all want to get back soon,,,,he who pays the piper names the tune!

Yet more rubbish from you. I wouldn't mind betting that pubs will be one of the last places to open up again thus rubbishing your conspiracy theory.

The coronavirus pandemic isn't the time to play politics which all of the major political parties understand and agree with leaving it to just a few keyboard warriors to make fools of themselves

 

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