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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 09 May 20 4.41pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Wife just going to work, Central Management have sent an email stating under no circumstances should Officers wear face masks when dealing with the public! Despicable. Apparently Union have said that wear if you want and they would fight any disciplinary action to the very top. Personally think Home Secretary should intervene but of course, she may not know.

Pesky lefty unions! Pritti may not know, but then again she may, and not give a fcuk!

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 09 May 20 4.51pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Recorded crimes rose from 303,711 at the beginning of WW2 to 478,394 in the last year of the war.

Those figures pale into insignificance to the 6,300,000 recorded crimes in the UK last year

Key words "recorded crimes"

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 09 May 20 5.02pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

I don't necessarily agree with your take on things usually but your views are well put. However, in this instance, what a load of old tosh.

You may have an issue with the media and how they report it, but allow those who lived through it a bit of respect. They don't view it through rose tinted specs, they know what the reality was like. I never met my uncle because he died in Italy. I was going to visit his grave for the first time this year, but that's been put on hold. I was going to go because I've now lost my Dad, my Mum, my Auntie's and Uncles, all of them, who were able to tell me as a kid and as an adult about what it was like to live through the War. They lived in London and suffered bombings on their areas the likes of which none of us can comprehend. They all did their bit but asked for no thanks afterwards. To a man and woman, they were very humble about what occurred. And none of them are here now to visit their brother's grave.

Another uncle of mine and my other half's Grandad were prisoners of war, both in the Far East. They returned mentally scarred and never, ever wanted to talk about what they endured, each suffering from nightmares until the days they died.

None of them are here any longer, so I actually appreciate days like yesterday to look back, reflect, and yes, give thanks to them for whatever parts they played in keeping us from becoming German. I thank my lucky stars that I'm of a generation that never had to do National Service, as I'd have hated my selfish little existence to be disrupted. And I pray that my own children never have to do it either, although my nephew voluntarily joined up and has already seen stuff that I never have, and never want to. None of my friends have been blown up standing next to me. His best friend was.

So don't do days like yesterday down. What I do agree with you about is about doing our own thing to make the future better. I do so in whatever small way I can, and I trust you do the same. And neither of us ask for any thanks for doing so, I assume. So concentrate on the future by all means, but don't deny us the right to remember the past and those who played their part in it.

No one is saying ‘don’t do anything anymore’

I also have posted this as a bit of perspective - both my grandparents fought in the wars. It’s also not about disrespect - read it again.

It’s a more general point which I tend to agree with, around reframing things in a more saccharine and dare I say it commercial way at the expense of, as you quite rightly put it, reflection respect and factual correctness.

I certainly agree in sort with issuing VE Day as a use case to bring up the very fair point of British propaganda and bigging ourselves up regardless of reality

We’ve always done it and it’s partly the little man complex. And in fairness it works for us - galvanising and all that.

If you 100% subscribe to the ‘jolly well done let’s celebrate’ narrative that’s fine, but I choose to reflect in a different way with a healthy dose of realism and respect.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 May 20 5.11pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Key words "recorded crimes"

Key phrase "clutching at straws"

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 09 May 20 5.17pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Key phrase "clutching at straws"

Bantz

In fairness he has a point regarding methodology, accuracy and all round efficiency of reporting vs now

Plus population volume and density

But not enough to dent the general point made

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 09 May 20 6.27pm

The care home data here makes for illuminating reading [Link]

I've made clear my concerns that no effective plan whatsoever was put in place for this, the most vulnerable of groups. As of 7th May, on average the Coronavirus is or has been present in 1/3 of our care homes.

This is a shocking statistic and the number of deaths in these homes is comparable to the numbers in hospitals.

At the same time, it highlights how widespread covid-19 is. If I'm to salvage a positive, it appears likely that in a few months time, if your loved one in a care home is still with us, they may have contracted and survived the virus. You could also argue that it provides a timeline of sorts on how far through this pandemic we are.

Edited by BlueJay (09 May 2020 6.29pm)

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 09 May 20 6.58pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Key phrase "clutching at straws"

Just to be clear I don't believe now is a more caring time. However there was a great deal of propaganda that masked a great deal of evil. A lot of baby boomers see the end of the war as some golden time. They honestly believe that the pendulum swung like a pendulum did and the rosy red cheeks of the little children who no way were starving filthy and many exploited as child prostitutes.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 09 May 20 7.03pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm fine.

Don't bother listening to those who comment on me who harbour ill will.

He's alive Thought it was time to smoke you out. Hope you're alright - was almost worried for a second.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 May 20 7.19pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Great post. I concur 100% with your sentiments. Yesterday brought more than a few tears to my eyes.

My own Dad served in the navy and was on the Prince of Wales when it was sunk by the Japanese. He lost many friends that day and my Mum didn't know he had survived until 6 weeks later. We can only imagine what that must have been like but I probably owe my life to his homecoming! He rarely spoke of those days but I have done the research and read the book he contributed to and it was very, very tough.

Remembering what they did is an honour for me.


I say this with respect,

Generally I disagree with pretty much every post of yours, however this post is spot on fella.

As you rightly say, It’s an honour to be able to remember that very special generation.

Good post.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 May 20 7.21pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Finally, i have to congratulate the government on the news that we are imposing a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals at the airport, and am suprised boris has acted so swiftly, 3 months is not at all bad , well done all involved in such a speedy decision!

Damn right, bloody Boris.

We’d have all been much better off under a left wing leader, just look how well Sweden have done.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 May 20 7.58pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Pesky lefty unions! Pritti may not know, but then again she may, and not give a fcuk!

I do not for one minute believe Priti Patel does not give a f***. To be honest your anti- Government responses are getting a bit tiresome now. I only posted regarding my wife to advise people what is going on, if it only provokes political points scoring I won’t bother

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 09 May 20 9.32pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Key words "recorded crimes"

Key indeed silver, key indeed!

 

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