‘Should never be allowed to happen’
‘Simply unacceptable’

Is what you’ll read at the moment.

COYP

45K dead? No, it"s not true, more like 70k plus, don" believe the non carehome and unexplained figures, work on the 70k and then make your mind up .

What I think is often missed when people state figures like that is the reality that most of those people would not be alive today if this virus had never happened: It finishes off those with weak immune systems, who are already suffering from pre-existing conditions at the back end of life....many died 'with' and not necessarily 'of' but were described as such regardless.

The number of people who only died of this virus on its own would be significantly smaller. I don't in anyway dismiss those that did, however I don't view the world changing economic response was or is in anyway appropriate.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2020 4.52pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yes, all true mate, i was just giving the correct figures as poster thought 45k had died, but the economic response is another story altogether.

I know Rudi, and you know, and even Boris knows, thats why he conveniently stopped using the charts in his daily briefings, the same charts he was always pointing to showing us lagging behind Italy and Spain, until we surged above them, then the chart system was flawed! The reason we are the worst in Europe, as you know, was that Boris told us to all go out and socialise, to the football, down the pub, while the rest of Europe were saying stay in! It was the day after the parliament square celebrations for leaving the eu, Boris wasn"t listening to european leaders, we were free, we do it our way, until he realised his error, told us to stay in, or face a fine! That huge clanger by the CON servative pm is said to have cost half the 70k lives lost, i don"t dislike Boris, but no point pretending that was a huge error, sadly costing many, many thousands of deaths! All will come out in time, but Boris will be long gone when it does !

So the idea is that the UK has under-reported the figures? Even though the official total is equal to the combined total for Russia, pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Turkey, Egypt, Indonesia, Japan, the Phillipines, Algeria, Greece and Poland.