That’s plausible but my take on this government is that it set out from after the ele ction to please as many people as possible across the political, economic and social spectrum. Covid came soon after and that goal remained, clouded their judgement over doing what was the right thing in their minds or analysis but instead did the right thing in the eyes of lots of people or the media. A real shower. By late May it was clear lockdown could’ve been released. It wouldn’t have made the slightest bit of difference to this blip, wave or rumble of cases they’ve hunted down in hotspots. They could’ve kept social distancing and hygiene but all this lot are good for is one order to like stay in, don’t go out, wear a mask, don’t kill granny. What an embarrassment. Keira wouldn’t be any better. He’d just find more misleading positive test numbers to make the picture worse.

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The trouble with anything new, especially where it packs a punch, is that it takes a while for reliable data to emerge and for us to understand the impact and road to recovery over time. The most sensible approach I suppose is not to accept that the worse case scenario is the most likely eventual outcome, while also not imagining that we somehow already know that the impact on health will be insignificant over time.

As for young people, I agree they are certainly the primarily casualty of this, which is ironic in a sense since it mostly impacts the old. But then screwing over the young is par for the course for governments, who rarely see the benefit of appealing to that demographic over the elderly. With hopes of home ownership or a secure job already off the agenda for many prior to this, as bad as things might get, sadly much had already been taken away.

Edited by BlueJay (10 Sep 2020 3.40am)

Er stop BLM riots perhaps to stop them killing their grannies?

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I don't agree with end of April but the end of October was a ridiculous policy ( three months too long) and has just given shed loads of people the right to do **** all for months whilst pretending to work from home - that doesn't detract from those who genuinely have done so by the way - and it has also given some Employers the chance to rook the system - I hope they get punished and go bust by the way!
It also seems to me that many workers expect another Furlough as some sort of entitlement - utter madness - I have no wish to pay huge amounts of money/tax for others to do nothing when they could be working.
I have a foot in both camps on this virus - I have no intention of putting myself needlessly in harms way but I have worked throughout - non stop - as have all of my staff and I do not expect that to change.
Be wary, be careful but let's get on with it now - no excuses!

They should make every effort to return to work if that is where they need to be and assuming that reasonable distancing can be provided.
I actually spoke to the DVLA the other day so it is starting to happen and I took stuff back to a Library this morning and that was staffed.
Services that are paid for need to be provided wherever possible bearing safety in mind.

At which part of the curve in their ‘flatten the curve’ or ‘save the nhs’ from being overwhelmed would you have stopped lockdown/furlough?

Just curious, not looking for an argument. We clearly agree this is nuts but it was ‘just this, just that, just for this long’, but I do remember murmurings of end of the year/November and that’s exactly what it’ll be, or longer.

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