And test and trace, with a test that isn’t accurate, is too sensitive, and a system that can have you isolating fortnight after fortnight. I’ve given up on any sense coming from government, the opposition or the media. These negligent fools will happily ruin us all for their own interests in ‘suppressing (false positive) cases (seriously) and deaths (that aren’t rising ‘exponentially’ which is again an incorrect description for Covid at any time). Suppressing a virus that will run its way through the population like they always do and over the elderly if they do as they’re doing now, just as Sweden are experiencing now. People can say what they like about Sweden and the way they live and the population density but the fact is they aren’t having the many (false) positive cases because the virus has run through the population in an efficient way. The question is if the government know this and secretly counting on this while this testing or test/trace farce continues with neurotic parents get their kids and maybe the whole year group out of school asap and work Shirkers and skivers try and get fortnights off work if their employers’ are full payers.

More confirmation of what a shower and government state handout society we have along with the usual left wing fannies who will happily ruin everything over a theory or an aim that is flawed in its design. Meanwhile people without this security but big mortgages leave the house and get on with it. Funny that. Always the same.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 Sep 2020 9.02am)

COYP

Flu vaccines can leave you more vulnerable to other respiratory diseases based on studies. If COVID is that serious then why are the government pushing these other than just to scare people?

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Edited by W12 (17 Sep 2020 12.15pm)

Interesting and thanks for the link mate.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Dr Michael Yeadon on Radio again.

'Government are using a Covid-19 test with undeclared false positive rates.'

COYP

Antibodies of the common cold variety antibodies fall off dramatically over time, even covid-19 ones do gradually. While it's possible or even likely that some cases of covid-19 are false positives due to having an earlier coronavirus, it would seem unlikely that it accounts for dramatic numbers of them considering the current situation, how contagious it clearly is and so on. Also, since we're speculating, it's also possible that having a prior coronavirus could feasibly offer a degree of crossover immunity. If that is the case, then those individuals would be less likely to even become ill, or get tested in the first place. Complexities this way and that trump pushing a single angle.

If we're going to narrow focus on what is counted, let's also factor in that the vast majority of covid-19 cases are clearly never tested or registered to begin with, which of course could be a good thing in some regards for the same of moving beyond it faster. But it's a pandemic not a scam. I'm happy to accept that the vast majority of people would never need hospitalisation, but it clearly packs a punch compared to well just about any widespread virus in our lifetime and is working its way through the population. We don't want to verge on drifting into territory that infers a pandemic isn't happening, or hardly anyone will contract it. Both of those would be entirely false statements.

Edited by BlueJay (18 Sep 2020 12.27am)

How can a virus that doesn’t kill healthy people become a pandemic?

Why initiate a draconian lockdown for healthy people?

We have accepted the removal of our common law rights in the basis of fear deliberately spread by the government and the media. The result of the lockdown is clearly going to be worse than anything that would have happened without it.