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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 18 Sep 20 7.13am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay
Bluejay - did you even listen to Mike Yeadon - he explained quite clearly how the false positives can be making up a significant proportion of the current positive “cases”?


Antibodies of the common cold variety antibodies fall off dramatically over time, even covid-19 ones do gradually. While it's possible or even likely that some cases of covid-19 are false positives due to having an earlier coronavirus, it would seem unlikely that it accounts for dramatic numbers of them considering the current situation, how contagious it clearly is and so on. Also, since we're speculating, it's also possible that having a prior coronavirus could feasibly offer a degree of crossover immunity. If that is the case, then those individuals would be less likely to even become ill, or get tested in the first place. Complexities this way and that trump pushing a single angle.

If we're going to narrow focus on what is counted, let's also factor in that the vast majority of covid-19 cases are clearly never tested or registered to begin with, which of course could be a good thing in some regards for the same of moving beyond it faster. But it's a pandemic not a scam. I'm happy to accept that the vast majority of people would never need hospitalisation, but it clearly packs a punch compared to well just about any widespread virus in our lifetime and is working its way through the population. We don't want to verge on drifting into territory that infers a pandemic isn't happening, or hardly anyone will contract it. Both of those would be entirely false statements.


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 18 Sep 20 8.28am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

BBC reporting that government are looking at closing down the hospitality business because of the scientific advisors concerns that something might happen.

Why don’t they just round up all publicans in the country and shoot them and put an end to their misery. They will destroy everything we love here with these utterly pointless draconian measures. Protect those who need to be protected and let every one else get on with it before we have nothing left to go back to.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Sep 20 8.38am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

BBC reporting that government are looking at closing down the hospitality business because of the scientific advisors concerns that something might happen.

Why don’t they just round up all publicans in the country and shoot them and put an end to their misery. They will destroy everything we love here with these utterly pointless draconian measures. Protect those who need to be protected and let every one else get on with it before we have nothing left to go back to.

Yet the anecdotal information is that the virus is spreading via different households close mixing inside homes.

 


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W12 18 Sep 20 9.54am

It's interesting to me that lockdown v non-lockdown has become a left v right (or more accurately globalist v nationalist) issue

I think it's built into the system that globalists simply trust what they are told and nationalists have developed a healthy mistrust of the state (and the global forces that run it)

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Sep 20 10.39am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Quite likely the government are using their new co-worker media after bowing to media pressure in spring to leak the possibility of a lockdown. Result is loads go mental over a lockdown and rightly so, but if there’s a real infection and hospitalisation problem in the next few months they can say ‘We wanted to lockdown but...’

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Sep 20 10.42am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Bluejay - did you even listen to Mike Yeadon - he explained quite clearly how the false positives can be making up a significant proportion of the current positive “cases”?

That’s what I thought reading the whole his post and evidently not.

(You need to post underneath the post you’re replying to and ‘quote’ in square brackets or yours ends up inside the post you’re replying to and it’s difficult to work out who said what)

 


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Originally posted by W12

It's interesting to me that lockdown v non-lockdown has become a left v right (or more accurately globalist v nationalist) issue

I think it's built into the system that globalists simply trust what they are told and nationalists have developed a healthy mistrust of the state (and the global forces that run it)

I keep it simpler than that, I don’t trust anyone I don’t know any more. The world is full of scroungers and chancers. I wouldn’t want to be born into this world right now that’s for sure. Don’t care if this is a sad way to be.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Sep 20 11.00am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I keep it simpler than that, I don’t trust anyone I don’t know any more. The world is full of scroungers and chancers. I wouldn’t want to be born into this world right now that’s for sure. Don’t care if this is a sad way to be.

2020 has certainly exposed the hidden truth of a lot of people.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

2020 has certainly exposed the hidden truth of a lot of people.

In what way? Are you saying that people who accept what the government say about C19 are showing colours you never thought they had! Bad, thick and basically not worth a corrot.
And if that's the case are you going to use that against your friends or family if their opinion differs, which I thought HOL was good at levelling, opinions that is. Not labelling.

 

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I reckon ‘You dirty Northern b******s’ might get sung more when (full, not 1,000 of 15,000 who’ve loaned the club £500) crowds are allowed back.

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