I’ve had discussions and heated debates on this and most people I really know agree. Those who don’t or have to wear a mask near me outside I’d rather avoid for a year. Thanks.

I’m more referring to the skiving, shirking, cheating, obstructing selfish people, asymptomatic requesters or short sighted, narrow minded truth hiding, rule abiding narrow minded sheep.

I come from a background of some hard and tough experiences. I know the ages and underlying health conditions chances and the same for the healthy and so do the people I communicate with, even if it’s after we’ve spoken. You might actually be surprised how many agree, because those who don’t keep a mask on from front door into car, into supermarket and back home again so you’ll never hear how freaked out they are via their telemonitor feeding them only the worst on 30 minute repeat.

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Thank you 👍

He put forward a very specific point relating to why he thinks there may be lots of false positive tests. I stated a wider point stating that while there may be some false positives (clearly his early claim that every case might be a false positive is ludicrous) there's very sound reasoning for why vast numbers of covid-19 cases are not counted or tested. It's a two way street.

In putting forward points that encompass aspects of what we're dealing with in both directions it's only ever the aspects that people 'imagine' could be against 'get on with it' or 'its just the flu' that are endlessly picked at. The irony being that I do largely think we should get on with it, but i'm not looking to vilify or rubbish absolutely anything that points to aspects of seriousness specific to the virus and indeed research and links that may be of real and genuine use to some.

Some are eager to swoop in with a tonne of juvenile 'guesswork guesswork' replies when a well theorised (experiments, studies, other viruses..) article relating to how masks might actually diminish the severity of covid-19 even if contracted is posted. But to me the value of posting this and what it could mean to vulnerable or elderly people reading it if further evidence builds is greater than that of hearing of some kind of ego boost uniformed agreement that encompasses so many aspects of the virus that it's clearly just a pointless group sucking of a comfort blanket.

And of course any of badly sources article that are in agreement with the general push here breezes through entirely. So little discussion has actually taken place in this thread and anyone endevouring to do so, essentially just gets shut down in favour of a hand curated selections of links from sites that look like they were set up in someones basement.

Edited by BlueJay (18 Sep 2020 2.13pm)

It's Over. Move on. Those who feel vunerable stay Isolated. Let the rest of us get on with our lives. There aren't dead bodies piling up in hospitals or lying in the streets.

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Obesity.

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BJ, you’re trying to vilify people like Carl Heneghan, Karol Sikorsky and Michael Yeadon. Doctors, professors and Yeadon is both and a former respiratory researcher for Pfizer. They are not messaging from their phone in a basement that you’re accusing them of on your phone probably. I’ve even come across one moron saying ‘well that’s youtube’, as if YouTube is an opinion or person rather than a platform. That’s coming from a brainless bbc Brainwashing Broadcasting Channel.

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