I'm still waiting for the second wave graph. The one which instigated the lockdown to be repeated. All I see is increases in positive tests, and increases in hospital admissions. Average death rates are normal as far as I can find.

And even if all these vaccines prove to be safe, it will take at least two years to get the already terrified public to believe they can carry on as normal.

Expect more of the same. For years to come.

Don’t trust me, trust the ONS data.

I said "second wave"!

That isn't a graph showing why we needed a lockdown. It shows a trend that happened after lockdown. The average deaths are similar to, well, average. You do realise that death rates increase every autumn/winter? And you do realise that average means, er, average? If you look at the year on year deaths, they vary to a staggering degree. So the 5 year average is a tad misleading.

What, for 2029?

Blimey, those civil servants are whizzes with stats.

I don’t know what you are looking at but it clearly shows the sharp trend in increasing COVID deaths before the second lockdown was introduced (05/11).

The ‘average deaths’ are 10% above Average and with deaths ‘not involving COVID’ down (below the five year average), this further illustrates that increased COVID deaths are making up both the shortfall and the 10% increase. This concept has already been clearly explained by some members previously.

I'm still waiting for the second wave graph. The one which instigated the lockdown to be repeated. All I see is increases in positive tests, and increases in hospital admissions. Average death rates are normal as far as I can find.

And even if all these vaccines prove to be safe, it will take at least two years to get the already terrified public to believe they can carry on as normal.

Expect more of the same. For years to come.