If you think my point about using private beds as and when needed rather than spending for decades is worth discussion it's your choice.
Cuts were across the board in all sectors not just the NHS.when the cuts to the nhs were made they wernt malicious,but on need at the time.
I'm sure that hindsight would have meant things would be different but the country was on its uppers so money needed saving.
My angst at the points you made are that this event we are going through is not wanted by anyone. It wasnt planned and the treatment and reduction techniques are not tried and tested but are proved to work with distancing. It's a shame that some in the uk are idiots.
After it's over I'm sure that mistakes will be analyzed and procedures put in place for better action if it happens again.
For now all leaders are trying to get solutions.
Political points even just observations are not helpful atm. Stress levels are through the roof and it doesnt help.

Yep. Hearing about the couple that went to Italy to come home to self isolate really made me realise we might have a problem. Unless they helicopter themselves from Italy to their home they’re causing a problem even if they think they’re being responsible in self isolating. Then there’s the private schools that returned from skiing in northern Italy, only to let those children return to a full school before sending them home to self isolate.

It’s a shame the virus doesn’t discriminate against the stupid and selfish.

COYP

No, I didn’t mean you. Just shows who you are. This is fake news from Trump’s favourite basketball player. The woman didn’t die for crumbs sake. She was deeply upset for sure but I can find no evidence she was ‘disappeared’ as proposed.

I will apologise for the original tone of that post which I have rewritten.....I was angry.

Have you found evidence for her then? As reporting in China isn't exactly transparent is it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Fair point re: stress levels and I don’t wish to raise levels of anxiety unnecessarily. My worry is if we don’t point out these issues now, once this is over and the dust has settled we go back to doing the same.

There is going to be a serious increase in spending to combat this, and my concern is that once this is all finished they use the crisis as excuse for another 10 years of austerity.

I do echo my original sentiments though regarding the U.K. population acting like idiots stems from weak leadership. You can’t ‘advise’ people not to go to the pubs, you tell them as leader don’t go. They should be running public health videos in every advert break explaining the risks of spreading etc. We have had 5/6 years of dialogue in the media in the U.K. about not listening to experts/politicians so I’m not surprised that the public are still ignoring expert advice. To clarify that’s not a snipe about brexit more Gove’s remarks ‘I think we’ve had enough of experts’ etc.

Yeah, and about 5 weeks ago a guy called 5 live to say he had been in that region in china that was in lockdown, and before he left he called the foreign office to say he"s leaving and should he do anything when he returns? They replied just go home and stay in for a week! He did, but got tube from heathrow to kings cross, then a train to Leeds! Said he didn"t think he had the virus, but if he did, then a whole tube carriage and train could have it to!If that happened to thousands of others, some who do have it, imagine the needless spreading that could have been avoided with testing at airport and isolation!