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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 26 Feb 20 4.15pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Not trying to get into the politics of left and right or religions but I have been keeping track of Peter Hitchens column in the Mail.

He continually references the link that so many people, no matter colour, creed or politics, that commit murders, bombings etc are heavy drug users with previous convictions for drug offences. Mainly cannabis but other types as well.

I am no expert on drugs but, if his findings are factual, perhaps this should be investigated?

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Feb 20 6.15pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Extreme conservatism'.....Mmmm....Aren't you the one who voluntarily made money working in Qatar and other extreme conservative countries? Countries with attitudes on conservatism far in excess of what I could support. Also aren't you the one who has defended them on here and watches the Qatar funded media channel Al Jazeera,

This advice is more relevant to a person like you: the faux moralist.

I am English, this is my natural and historical home. This is the land which my ancestors fought and died for. My ancestors, probably stretching back thousands of years, are northern European: I value my identity.

You don't, and that's ok....but don't talk to me about conservatism; the drenching in hypocrisy is just too much.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2020 11.19am)

You are very confused.

I have never worked in Quatar

It is you that doesn't value the modern identity of England. You are trying to reinvent a supposed former world and failing to live in the here and now. You seem to value burying yourself away and not engaging with all the wonderful things available to you.

It is also interesting that you challenge me for wishing to be moral.

Time to get on board daddyoh.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Feb 20 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Errr...I haven't commented on the details of this attack.

I've correctly apportioned blame onto those who have created this form of society.

Get your facts straight.

I didn't say YOU did. Get your facts straight

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Feb 20 6.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is that the same as telling Black people to move to Africa if they don't like Trump's America?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Feb 2020 12.51pm)

No it isn't

Got any more questions for me?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Feb 20 6.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

No it isn't

Got any more questions for me?

Wrong.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 20 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I didn't say YOU did. Get your facts straight


Really? In that case Maple, what facts were I required to get 'right' in my statement apportioning blame?

I'm most keen to hear.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 20 9.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You are very confused.

I have never worked in Quatar

It is you that doesn't value the modern identity of England. You are trying to reinvent a supposed former world and failing to live in the here and now. You seem to value burying yourself away and not engaging with all the wonderful things available to you.

It is also interesting that you challenge me for wishing to be moral.

Time to get on board daddyoh.


If it wasn't Qatar it was very similar....the points remain

As for your comments about the 'modern identity of England'.

The modern identity of England are the English, and that hasn't changed.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2020 9.22pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Feb 20 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Really? In that case Maple, what facts were I required to get 'right' in my statement apportioning blame?

I'm most keen to hear.

Canít you read? Nowhere did I say you hadnít got your facts straight.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 20 10.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Canít you read? Nowhere did I say you hadnít got your facts straight.

To quote you, you wrote in reply to me.

'Be as angry as you like

Just get the facts straight before apportioning blame
. Some people appear to have shown a tendency towards blind hatred on this site and on this thread.'

I hadn't even mentioned 'facts', I made a statement containing my worldview.

You Maple, are very disingenuous.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2020 10.17pm)

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 26 Feb 20 10.16pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You are very confused.

I have never worked in Quatar

It is you that doesn't value the modern identity of England. You are trying to reinvent a supposed former world and failing to live in the here and now. You seem to value burying yourself away and not engaging with all the wonderful things available to you.

It is also interesting that you challenge me for wishing to be moral.

Time to get on board daddyoh.

Care to explain what this means?

I'm guessing here, but you don't often leave urban areas?

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Feb 20 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Care to explain what this means?

I'm guessing here, but you don't often leave urban areas?

Quite so. Other than going to Wales. Oh, and Shropshire. Ah yes, also Suffolk. And Essex. And Lincolnshire. But apart from that, mostly South London.

Stirling was bemoaning how the UK has been dominated by neo liberalism as I recall

 

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Originally posted by johnno42000

Not trying to get into the politics of left and right or religions but I have been keeping track of Peter Hitchens column in the Mail.

He continually references the link that so many people, no matter colour, creed or politics, that commit murders, bombings etc are heavy drug users with previous convictions for drug offences. Mainly cannabis but other types as well.

I am no expert on drugs but, if his findings are factual, perhaps this should be investigated?

Most recreational drug use is illegal and the stuff is obviously associated with crime for various reasons.

However, I'd be surprised to discover that it was a driving factor within acts of terrorism in the west.....other than possibly as a means of helping to fund it.

Hitchens attacks those aspects of social liberalism that he believes are destroying what our ancestors built.

We often get the criticism that we want to recreate the fifties.....Well, not really, but in Hitchen's case he has just completely given up on conservatism actually doing any conserving.

I think he's being a little hasty.....there is a lot to happen yet.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2020 10.36pm)

 

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