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Spiderman Horsham 31 May 20 1.58pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays There were huge fiscal and human resources put into the moon landings. Mythbusters did a good show on this. Besides all the other problems in faking this.....the videotape technology of the late 1960s was not up to the job of making a fake moon landing. This stuff was sent out 'live' on television, Back in 1969 there was not any video tape that could have recorded unbroken for long enough to create a fake version of the live broadcast of the mission from the lunar surface. The live broadcast of the original moon landing was the most watched in history lasted around two and a half hours straight, with no gaps. So for it to be 'faked' they would have had to fake it 'live'.....and if you're faking it, you'd not going to risk that. I've never believed that this conspiracy stood up to examination....Most don't. However, it's never wrong to question and probe. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 3.31pm) Having said that, as this was one of the momentous achievements ever, I find it bizarre that, apparently, the official tapes have been destroyed. I agree it would be hard to fake but not impossible. Having visited KSC, the US were finding it difficult to launch successful space missions but suddenly with the Russians appearing to be more successful and the Cold War rearing it’s head, within a couple of years, not only had they launched successfully but landed on the moon. This is a debate I often have with my daughter who works in the Space Industry Off now to watch SpaceX dock
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Horsham 31 May 20 1.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There were huge fiscal and human resources put into the moon landings.

Mythbusters did a good show on this.

Besides all the other problems in faking this.....the videotape technology of the late 1960s was not up to the job of making a fake moon landing.

This stuff was sent out 'live' on television, Back in 1969 there was not any video tape that could have recorded unbroken for long enough to create a fake version of the live broadcast of the mission from the lunar surface.

The live broadcast of the original moon landing was the most watched in history lasted around two and a half hours straight, with no gaps.

So for it to be 'faked' they would have had to fake it 'live'.....and if you're faking it, you'd not going to risk that.

I've never believed that this conspiracy stood up to examination....Most don't. However, it's never wrong to question and probe.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 3.31pm)

Having said that, as this was one of the momentous achievements ever, I find it bizarre that, apparently, the official tapes have been destroyed.
I agree it would be hard to fake but not impossible. Having visited KSC, the US were finding it difficult to launch successful space missions but suddenly with the Russians appearing to be more successful and the Cold War rearing it’s head, within a couple of years, not only had they launched successfully but landed on the moon. This is a debate I often have with my daughter who works in the Space Industry
Off now to watch SpaceX dock

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Hrolf The Ganger 31 May 20 10.24pm
Originally posted by Vaibow Regarding the moon landings, they lost all information and data to be able to recreate it... wow! Also, haven't been able to go back since? Also, scientists have come out and said we cannot travel past the Van Allen belt, it's too toxic - why when we have already done it? Also, why was Stanley Kubrick hired to recreate what he felt the moon would look like and have it filmed, purely for training purposes. I think, personally, the evidence is readily available for any rational, free thinking individual to come tot he conclusion it is far easier to fake it than to make it, which lends to the idea it never happened. There was a race with the Russians to get there first - why not combine? Go back in joint efforts? But, it's ok for people to have different opinions - even if they do appear wrong. But it did happen and not a single piece of evidence to the contrary stands up to scrutiny. A very good reason why we didn't go back was that it cost a vast amount of money and no one cared after the first few Apollo missions. I like the idea that we have a secret space corp that carried on missions unknown to the public but certainly, the budget for official projects was drastically cut after the Apollo missions to the extent that the Sky Lab had to be built from leftovers.
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Originally posted by Vaibow

Regarding the moon landings, they lost all information and data to be able to recreate it... wow!

Also, haven't been able to go back since?

Also, scientists have come out and said we cannot travel past the Van Allen belt, it's too toxic - why when we have already done it?

Also, why was Stanley Kubrick hired to recreate what he felt the moon would look like and have it filmed, purely for training purposes.

I think, personally, the evidence is readily available for any rational, free thinking individual to come tot he conclusion it is far easier to fake it than to make it, which lends to the idea it never happened.

There was a race with the Russians to get there first - why not combine? Go back in joint efforts?

But, it's ok for people to have different opinions - even if they do appear wrong.

But it did happen and not a single piece of evidence to the contrary stands up to scrutiny. A very good reason why we didn't go back was that it cost a vast amount of money and no one cared after the first few Apollo missions.
I like the idea that we have a secret space corp that carried on missions unknown to the public but certainly, the budget for official projects was drastically cut after the Apollo missions to the extent that the Sky Lab had to be built from leftovers.

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Stirlingsays 01 Jun 20 4.40am
Originally posted by Spiderman Having said that, as this was one of the momentous achievements ever, I find it bizarre that, apparently, the official tapes have been destroyed. I agree it would be hard to fake but not impossible. Having visited KSC, the US were finding it difficult to launch successful space missions but suddenly with the Russians appearing to be more successful and the Cold War rearing it’s head, within a couple of years, not only had they launched successfully but landed on the moon. This is a debate I often have with my daughter who works in the Space Industry Off now to watch SpaceX dock As you know we have tapes of moon landings but I don't know about official ones. If we had faked the Moon landings, surely that have got to Wikileaks by now? Also I think the Russians would have been shouting about it all through the seventies and eighties. It least it's one of those conspiracy theories whose's adherents are going to get their faith tested as Nasa intend to be going back to the moon this decade....apparently 2024...with the intention of staying there. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2020 4.41am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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01 Jun 20 4.40am

Originally posted by Spiderman

As you know we have tapes of moon landings but I don't know about official ones.

If we had faked the Moon landings, surely that have got to Wikileaks by now? Also I think the Russians would have been shouting about it all through the seventies and eighties.

It least it's one of those conspiracy theories whose's adherents are going to get their faith tested as Nasa intend to be going back to the moon this decade....apparently 2024...with the intention of staying there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2020 4.41am)

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ex hibitionist Hastings 01 Jun 20 10.13am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays As you know we have tapes of moon landings but I don't know about official ones. If we had faked the Moon landings, surely that have got to Wikileaks by now? Also I think the Russians would have been shouting about it all through the seventies and eighties. It least it's one of those conspiracy theories whose's adherents are going to get their faith tested as Nasa intend to be going back to the moon this decade....apparently 2024...with the intention of staying there. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2020 4.41am) the way things are going there may be an almighty scrap for places on the space station, will we have to wear beige trouser-suits like on Space 1999?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As you know we have tapes of moon landings but I don't know about official ones.

If we had faked the Moon landings, surely that have got to Wikileaks by now? Also I think the Russians would have been shouting about it all through the seventies and eighties.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2020 4.41am)

the way things are going there may be an almighty scrap for places on the space station, will we have to wear beige trouser-suits like on Space 1999?

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Spiderman Horsham 01 Jun 20 12.43pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays As you know we have tapes of moon landings but I don't know about official ones. If we had faked the Moon landings, surely that have got to Wikileaks by now? Also I think the Russians would have been shouting about it all through the seventies and eighties. It least it's one of those conspiracy theories whose's adherents are going to get their faith tested as Nasa intend to be going back to the moon this decade....apparently 2024...with the intention of staying there. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2020 4.41am) I am opened minded about it and agree it would have been strange for the Russians not to shout about it. I thought I had somewhere about the tapes and have found the attached link. I do find it bizarre that such historical tapes would be erased but who knows what goes on anymore! [Link]
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Horsham 01 Jun 20 12.43pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As you know we have tapes of moon landings but I don't know about official ones.

If we had faked the Moon landings, surely that have got to Wikileaks by now? Also I think the Russians would have been shouting about it all through the seventies and eighties.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2020 4.41am)

I am opened minded about it and agree it would have been strange for the Russians not to shout about it. I thought I had somewhere about the tapes and have found the attached link. I do find it bizarre that such historical tapes would be erased but who knows what goes on anymore!

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Stirlingsays 01 Jun 20 1.26pm
Originally posted by ex hibitionist the way things are going there may be an almighty scrap for places on the space station, will we have to wear beige trouser-suits like on Space 1999? We have to get off this rock. And if it takes beige trouser-suits to do it.....it's a price we must pay. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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01 Jun 20 1.26pm

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

the way things are going there may be an almighty scrap for places on the space station, will we have to wear beige trouser-suits like on Space 1999?

We have to get off this rock.

And if it takes beige trouser-suits to do it.....it's a price we must pay.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 01 Jun 20 1.28pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I am opened minded about it and agree it would have been strange for the Russians not to shout about it. I thought I had somewhere about the tapes and have found the attached link. I do find it bizarre that such historical tapes would be erased but who knows what goes on anymore! [Link] I'm just disappointed that they found no actual cheese up there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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01 Jun 20 1.28pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

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I'm just disappointed that they found no actual cheese up there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 01 Jun 20 5.27pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm just disappointed that they found no actual cheese up there. Nor did they have to duck out of the way of that pesky cow
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Horsham 01 Jun 20 5.27pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm just disappointed that they found no actual cheese up there.

Nor did they have to duck out of the way of that pesky cow

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