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View nickyf's Profile nickyf 16 Mar 20 8.02pm Send a Private Message to nickyf Add nickyf as a friend

Something tells me a lot of budgets airlines will disappear through bankruptcy due to covid19, and only the big major national airlines will survive, could the end of people flying regularly be over and only the elites have the means?

Does make me wonder as so much has been said and protested about global warming and the impact of so many flights around the world by climate activist.

I fear lots of changes to the way we live are on the card in the years to come.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 16 Mar 20 8.19pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

UEFA/FIFA have said they are holding video conferences rather than flying to a meeting point. Gives you an idea of how much cash they are spunking needlessly on other corporate stuff. Video-conferencing should be standard practice for international organisations, regardless of Corona-virus.

My brother-in-law got promotion last year, he works as ground staff for Virgin Airways. It seemed a cushy job. Now all Virgin staff are to take 8 weeks unpaid leave in the next 6 months. So his wage packet will be two-thirds of what he normally has for the next 6 months.
Some staff will be laid off, offered redundancy/retirement packages.
So small airlines may well go under, but the cuts are impacting even the Big Boys

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Mar 20 7.09am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly


So small airlines may well go under, but the cuts are impacting even the Big Boys

The real pain will come when the airlines have to start refunding flight costs for cancelled flights.

I currently have two flights booked with Ryanair and one with Easyjet and will reschedule one to later in the year but there is a limit to the number of holidays that I can take in October so I'll want a refund on the other two


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Mar 20 7.49am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

My tour operator offered me a full refund or a credit note for 110% of the value of the holiday. That would mean an extra £500 at least.

I took the refund (haven't received it yet) as I am not sure about the creditor situation. If they go bust will I be protected or am I just one of many creditors?

I didn't want to take the risk annoying because I hope to do that holiday later in the year and the £500 would have covered the monies I am not going to get back but bird in the hand...

If anyone knows the answer to this please post too late for me but others will no doubt be offered similar deals.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 17 Mar 20 8.13am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

My tour operator offered me a full refund or a credit note for 110% of the value of the holiday. That would mean an extra £500 at least.

I took the refund (haven't received it yet) as I am not sure about the creditor situation. If they go bust will I be protected or am I just one of many creditors?

I didn't want to take the risk annoying because I hope to do that holiday later in the year and the £500 would have covered the monies I am not going to get back but bird in the hand...

If anyone knows the answer to this please post too late for me but others will no doubt be offered similar deals.

General rule of thumb is, that if you've booked a package holiday, as long as the company is ATOL protected you WILL get a full refund if things go tits up. If you've booked a 'Flight Only' deal you are only covered if you paid by credit/debit card OR you have adequate insurance cover.

British Airways are offering their pax a voucher for the cost of your flight to be used within 12 months. I was due to fly back home next tues, but am going to take BA's offer & re-book when restrictions have been lifted. Spain is on lockdown & The EU is meeting to discuss closing ALL borders for 30 days. I have a holibob booked in early May to Tenerife &, so far, its still going ahead(fingers X'd).

 


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View Harborough Eagle's Profile Harborough Eagle Flag Market Harborough, Leicestershire 17 Mar 20 10.27am Send a Private Message to Harborough Eagle Add Harborough Eagle as a friend

I think you made the right choice also. What if the 110% value does not cover the cost of the holiday in the brave new future....if we travel less what will the costs be like higher or lower??
In times of uncertainty etc..

We are all in this for the long haul(no pun intended) so your travel might not happen till next year anyway

Originally posted by Badger11

My tour operator offered me a full refund or a credit note for 110% of the value of the holiday. That would mean an extra £500 at least.

I took the refund (haven't received it yet) as I am not sure about the creditor situation. If they go bust will I be protected or am I just one of many creditors?

I didn't want to take the risk annoying because I hope to do that holiday later in the year and the £500 would have covered the monies I am not going to get back but bird in the hand...

If anyone knows the answer to this please post too late for me but others will no doubt be offered similar deals.

Edited by Harborough Eagle (17 Mar 2020 10.30am)

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Mar 20 10.37am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I had a holiday to New York booked for Easter. Obviously, that won't happen.
My initial thought about airlines: the end of the era of cheap flights.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Mar 20 11.22am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13


General rule of thumb is, that if you've booked a package holiday, as long as the company is ATOL protected you WILL get a full refund if things go tits up. If you've booked a 'Flight Only' deal you are only covered if you paid by credit/debit card OR you have adequate insurance cover.

Have you actually read the travel insurance policy?

It's full of so much gobbledygook that I'm not sure if I'm covered or not

 

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View Buckspalace's Profile Buckspalace Flag Thornborough 17 Mar 20 11.32am Send a Private Message to Buckspalace Add Buckspalace as a friend

Greta is getting her way already apparently the amount of CO2 being emitted by planes etc over China has fallen considerably since the Coronavirus scare started there some 3 months ago!!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 17 Mar 20 11.40am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Gatwick considering completely closing 1 Terminal

 

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Extinction Rebellion 1, Society 0

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 17 Mar 20 3.00pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Have you actually read the travel insurance policy?

It's full of so much gobbledygook that I'm not sure if I'm covered or not

I hear your pain there ME,

Yes, i agree, policies are designed for us plebs not to understand them, but, to buy them regardless. IF, you've paid by credit/debit card then that is another safeguard.

Most people only get insurance for their particular holiday & thats it. In most cases it wont cover for things like this & airlines failing(unless ATOL protected). Its an expensive minefield out there especially at the moment.

Stay safe people.

 


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