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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 22 6.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Freeview is well, free. This is from tv licensing:- "You don’t need a licence if you only ever watch on demand or catch up programmes on services other than BBC iPlayer (and you also never watch live TV programmes on any channel, including on BBC iPlayer). You need a TV Licence to download or watch BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand. This applies to any device and provider you use, including: Freeview, Freesat or YouView So watch ANYTHING live, you need a licence. Use iPlayer you need a licence. Pretty difficult to actually achieve that, in my opinion.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Jan 22 7.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is from tv licensing:- "You don’t need a licence if you only ever watch on demand or catch up programmes on services other than BBC iPlayer (and you also never watch live TV programmes on any channel, including on BBC iPlayer). You need a TV Licence to download or watch BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand. This applies to any device and provider you use, including: Freeview, Freesat or YouView So watch ANYTHING live, you need a licence. Use iPlayer you need a licence. Pretty difficult to actually achieve that, in my opinion. I have (& bare with me whilst I scroll through)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 16 Jan 22 7.40pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is from tv licensing:- "You don’t need a licence if you only ever watch on demand or catch up programmes on services other than BBC iPlayer (and you also never watch live TV programmes on any channel, including on BBC iPlayer). You need a TV Licence to download or watch BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand. This applies to any device and provider you use, including: Freeview, Freesat or YouView So watch ANYTHING live, you need a licence. Use iPlayer you need a licence. Pretty difficult to actually achieve that, in my opinion. Exactly it's a compulsory tax on all of us and hurts the the poor.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 22 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Exactly it's a compulsory tax on all of us and hurts the the poor. No it isn't. It's a licence fee. Taxes are raised and SPENT by the government. The licence fee is spent by the BBC, independent of the government. That some of you don't like the output doesn't change that. Be careful what you wish for. One day you may have a left leaning government and be pleased that the BBC is independent of them. How to protect the poor is a completely separate subject. I would simply give them a licence once a threshold of need is reached.
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HKOwen Online  Hong Kong 16 Jan 22 10.15pm |
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So finally people will not be forced on threat of imprisonment, to pay for a product they don't want. Good.
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Teddy Eagle Online  16 Jan 22 10.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it isn't. It's a licence fee. Taxes are raised and SPENT by the government. The licence fee is spent by the BBC, independent of the government. That some of you don't like the output doesn't change that. Be careful what you wish for. One day you may have a left leaning government and be pleased that the BBC is independent of them. How to protect the poor is a completely separate subject. I would simply give them a licence once a threshold of need is reached. And in the next incarnation there will be a subscription fee. How does that affect their independence?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 22 10.20pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
I have (& bare with me whilst I scroll through) I presume you are watching these channels in the USA and not the UK. The licence fee applies only in the UK. How it is presented in other countries is another matter entirely, but as the world's window on us, keeping it free makes perfect sense to me. Making the BBC a subscription service would have very significant, and almost certainly negative, implications. The BBC is different and it needs to stay different. It does important things that others don't. We don't want to see the BBC dumbing down any further than it's budget cuts have already forced it to do.
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Jan 22 10.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I presume you are watching these channels in the USA and not the UK. The licence fee applies only in the UK. How it is presented in other countries is another matter entirely, but as the world's window on us, keeping it free makes perfect sense to me. Making the BBC a subscription service would have very significant, and almost certainly negative, implications. The BBC is different and it needs to stay different. It does important things that others don't. We don't want to see the BBC dumbing down any further than it's budget cuts have already forced it to do. No one thinks the bbc doesn't make some good programmes or offer a service. The point is the somewhat biased reporting which has bought 'karma' to their door. Every dog has its day as the saying goes.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 22 11.07pm |
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Twenty years ago there was a proposal within the BBC to ensure that it employed fifty fifty on politics. At the time I viewed the rejection of that proposal as self destructive and ultimately I think that is going to be borne out. The path could have been so easily avoided.....If Liz Truss is being honest then the BBC better hope to God that Labour win the next election. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2022 11.09pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 22 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And in the next incarnation there will be a subscription fee. How does that affect their independence? That's yet to be decided. Just because a floundering government tries to divert attention via a populist headline is no guarantee anything will actually change. They are unlikely to be in power when the time comes. If it ever did go onto a subscription basis it would ruin, and possibly destroy the BBC. The BBC is not Netflix, Amazon or Sky. It's a very special organisation which needs to be honoured and nurtured. It's not just there to entertain. It isn't influenced by government, media moguls with agendas or business interests. I know people here don't like it's perceived politics, but the truth is that the BBC is bound by its charter to be independent and objective. That demands it challenges political policy which inevitably means the government comes in for more scrutiny and criticism than the opposition, who themselves may be making similar statements. It's a long time since we had a Labour government but they, and their supporters, have always been just as incensed by the BBC, when they were, as Tory supporters are now. The difference today is the internet, which was nothing like as actively used when Labour was last in power. We are just more aware of it now.
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| Teddy Eagle Online 16 Jan 22 11.42pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's yet to be decided. Just because a floundering government tries to divert attention via a populist headline is no guarantee anything will actually change. They are unlikely to be in power when the time comes. If it ever did go onto a subscription basis it would ruin, and possibly destroy the BBC. The BBC is not Netflix, Amazon or Sky. It's a very special organisation which needs to be honoured and nurtured. It's not just there to entertain. It isn't influenced by government, media moguls with agendas or business interests. I know people here don't like it's perceived politics, but the truth is that the BBC is bound by its charter to be independent and objective. That demands it challenges political policy which inevitably means the government comes in for more scrutiny and criticism than the opposition, who themselves may be making similar statements. It's a long time since we had a Labour government but they, and their supporters, have always been just as incensed by the BBC, when they were, as Tory supporters are now. The difference today is the internet, which was nothing like as actively used when Labour was last in power. We are just more aware of it now. Doesn’t explain why their independence would be compromised.
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Jan 22 12.36am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I presume you are watching these channels in the USA and not the UK. The licence fee applies only in the UK. How it is presented in other countries is another matter entirely, but as the world's window on us, keeping it free makes perfect sense to me. Making the BBC a subscription service would have very significant, and almost certainly negative, implications. The BBC is different and it needs to stay different. It does important things that others don't. We don't want to see the BBC dumbing down any further than it's budget cuts have already forced it to do. Actually although available for consumption I rarely peruse & when I have I always find it's 'The same old same old ' as they are fond of saying over here.
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