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JRW2 Dulwich 25 Jul 20 4.42pm
Originally posted by Badger11 BBC Panorama was guilty of political bias [Link] And yet again the BBC has to admit it made errors. Funny if the BBC is as unbiased as they say they are why do they never makes errors the other way around e.g. pro Brexit pro right wing? Thanks for posting that judgment by the ECU - if you can call it a judgment. They say, "(her) political affiliation......might have been relevant to the audience's evaluation of her contribution." A few lines later they say, "information about her political affiliations would not have called the validity of her concerns into doubt in the minds of viewers." Blimey, talk about wanting it both ways.
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JRW2

Dulwich 25 Jul 20 4.42pm

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC Panorama was guilty of political bias

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And yet again the BBC has to admit it made errors. Funny if the BBC is as unbiased as they say they are why do they never makes errors the other way around e.g. pro Brexit pro right wing?

Thanks for posting that judgment by the ECU - if you can call it a judgment. They say, "(her) political affiliation......might have been relevant to the audience's evaluation of her contribution." A few lines later they say, "information about her political affiliations would not have called the validity of her concerns into doubt in the minds of viewers." Blimey, talk about wanting it both ways.

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Badger11 Beckenham 25 Jul 20 4.51pm
Originally posted by JRW2 Thanks for posting that judgment by the ECU - if you can call it a judgment. They say, "(her) political affiliation......might have been relevant to the audience's evaluation of her contribution." A few lines later they say, "information about her political affiliations would not have called the validity of her concerns into doubt in the minds of viewers." Blimey, talk about wanting it both ways. What I find annoying is that the BBC loves to over egg the pudding. Th point of the program was that shambolic supply of PPE and it is a valid criticism. I would have got the most unbiased unimpeachable expert I could find but no they go for one of their mates in the Labour party. Do they not get that they then become the story not the failing of the government. For a media company they really do not understand "the media". Idiots. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 25 Jul 20 4.51pm

Originally posted by JRW2

What I find annoying is that the BBC loves to over egg the pudding. Th point of the program was that shambolic supply of PPE and it is a valid criticism.

I would have got the most unbiased unimpeachable expert I could find but no they go for one of their mates in the Labour party. Do they not get that they then become the story not the failing of the government. For a media company they really do not understand "the media".

Idiots.

One more point

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JRW2 Dulwich 25 Jul 20 5.11pm
Originally posted by Badger11 What I find annoying is that the BBC loves to over egg the pudding. Th point of the program was that shambolic supply of PPE and it is a valid criticism. I would have got the most unbiased unimpeachable expert I could find but no they go for one of their mates in the Labour party. Do they not get that they then become the story not the failing of the government. For a media company they really do not understand "the media". A very good point, if I may say so. The problem with that for the BBC, however, is that the unimpeachable experts (scientists, medics, professors) refuse to join in the political game. I can't remember which expert was on the Today programme this morning, but Nick Robinson tried every way he knew to get him to criticise the government. Far from doing so, he actually at one point praised the government. I doubt whether he'll be invited back (sorry, that's probably going too far).
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JRW2

Dulwich 25 Jul 20 5.11pm

Originally posted by Badger11

What I find annoying is that the BBC loves to over egg the pudding. Th point of the program was that shambolic supply of PPE and it is a valid criticism.

A very good point, if I may say so. The problem with that for the BBC, however, is that the unimpeachable experts (scientists, medics, professors) refuse to join in the political game. I can't remember which expert was on the Today programme this morning, but Nick Robinson tried every way he knew to get him to criticise the government. Far from doing so, he actually at one point praised the government. I doubt whether he'll be invited back (sorry, that's probably going too far).

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The Dolphin 26 Jul 20 7.22am
I just found this thread. The BBC is a disgrace and should be defunded. It's bias is embarrassing and everyone bar them knows it. Anyway - any business that pays Gary Lineker �2m a year should be shut for that reason alone!
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The Dolphin

26 Jul 20 7.22am

I just found this thread.
The BBC is a disgrace and should be defunded.
It's bias is embarrassing and everyone bar them knows it.
Anyway - any business that pays Gary Lineker �2m a year should be shut for that reason alone!

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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 20 7.54am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman They had �Churchill�s Finest Hour� with Gary Oldman playing Churchill on BBC1 a month ago. They�ll have �The Enigma Code� on again when Britain and Churchill had to let German victories and British deaths continue for the long term goal of keeping it secret we�d cracked the enigma code. Maybe my relative who worked in the French Radio dept at Bletchley Park shouldn�t have bothered in case someone got hurt defending our freedom and the world from tyranny. Could�ve ended up being a better option in a few generations� time. I am hoping to be the first family member to visit my grandfather�s grave in Italy ( he left a widow and 5 children behind) but I don�t want to be condemned as a racist/facist for dining this. Can�t understand why he went to fight for a country being governed by Churchill the racist.
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Horsham 26 Jul 20 7.54am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

They had �Churchill�s Finest Hour� with Gary Oldman playing Churchill on BBC1 a month ago. They�ll have �The Enigma Code� on again when Britain and Churchill had to let German victories and British deaths continue for the long term goal of keeping it secret we�d cracked the enigma code. Maybe my relative who worked in the French Radio dept at Bletchley Park shouldn�t have bothered in case someone got hurt defending our freedom and the world from tyranny. Could�ve ended up being a better option in a few generations� time.

I am hoping to be the first family member to visit my grandfather�s grave in Italy ( he left a widow and 5 children behind) but I don�t want to be condemned as a racist/facist for dining this. Can�t understand why he went to fight for a country being governed by Churchill the racist.

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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 20 8.02am
Originally posted by steeleye20 I didn't find that report unfair and unbalanced and Churchill's problems were explained. I don't follow these historians who weigh in with praise for Churchill's war effort, typical Max Hastings deflections. In fact historians seem to always err on the British version of events, unable to face up to the truth. The British Empire in respect of this disaster and many others, was responsible by its stripping of the colonies for home consumption. We ransacked them, in the case of India they were worse off when we departed than they had been 200 years earlier when Clive arrived to strip them bare. The BBC view was not one-sided, it is your education that is false, as our education system produces a totally one-sided and completely distorted view of history. Recommended viewing:- Dr.Worsley on 'history's greatest fibs', just for starters, and included an episode on India. And it is on BBC2........ So are you saying no-one in India is starving or living in poverty? Pay a cost sometime and have women try to thrust young babies through taxi windows. Did the British not build the railways and sewage system? Not saying we were innocent but...
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Spiderman

Horsham 26 Jul 20 8.02am

Originally posted by steeleye20

I didn't find that report unfair and unbalanced and Churchill's problems were explained.

I don't follow these historians who weigh in with praise for Churchill's war effort, typical Max Hastings deflections.

In fact historians seem to always err on the British version of events, unable to face up to the truth.

The British Empire in respect of this disaster and many others, was responsible by its stripping of the colonies for home consumption.

We ransacked them, in the case of India they were worse off when we departed than they had been 200 years earlier when Clive arrived to strip them bare.

The BBC view was not one-sided, it is your education that is false, as our education system produces a totally one-sided and completely distorted view of history.

Recommended viewing:- Dr.Worsley on 'history's greatest fibs', just for starters, and included an episode on India.

And it is on BBC2........

So are you saying no-one in India is starving or living in poverty? Pay a cost sometime and have women try to thrust young babies through taxi windows.
Did the British not build the railways and sewage system? Not saying we were innocent but...

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dannyboy1978 28 Jul 20 11.04am
Errr BBC, did you ever think it's the idiots that won't learn English [Link]
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dannyboy1978

28 Jul 20 11.04am

Errr BBC, did you ever think it's the idiots that won't learn English
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Jul 20 3.12pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 I didn't find that report unfair and unbalanced and Churchill's problems were explained. I don't follow these historians who weigh in with praise for Churchill's war effort, typical Max Hastings deflections. In fact historians seem to always err on the British version of events, unable to face up to the truth. The British Empire in respect of this disaster and many others, was responsible by its stripping of the colonies for home consumption. We ransacked them, in the case of India they were worse off when we departed than they had been 200 years earlier when Clive arrived to strip them bare. The BBC view was not one-sided, it is your education that is false, as our education system produces a totally one-sided and completely distorted view of history. Recommended viewing:- Dr.Worsley on 'history's greatest fibs', just for starters, and included an episode on India. And it is on BBC2........ That's not what a lot of Indians think. Many of them 'hated' us so much that they came to Britain when they needed help or to escape poverty.
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28 Jul 20 3.12pm

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Originally posted by steeleye20

I didn't find that report unfair and unbalanced and Churchill's problems were explained.

I don't follow these historians who weigh in with praise for Churchill's war effort, typical Max Hastings deflections.

In fact historians seem to always err on the British version of events, unable to face up to the truth.

The British Empire in respect of this disaster and many others, was responsible by its stripping of the colonies for home consumption.

We ransacked them, in the case of India they were worse off when we departed than they had been 200 years earlier when Clive arrived to strip them bare.

The BBC view was not one-sided, it is your education that is false, as our education system produces a totally one-sided and completely distorted view of history.

Recommended viewing:- Dr.Worsley on 'history's greatest fibs', just for starters, and included an episode on India.

And it is on BBC2........

That's not what a lot of Indians think.
Many of them 'hated' us so much that they came to Britain when they needed help or to escape poverty.

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Matov 28 Jul 20 4.43pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin any business that pays Gary Lineker �2m a year should be shut for that reason alone! I agree with everything you posted other than this. Any business can pay whatever it wants to who ever it wants. Lives or dies by its commercial decision. The BBC though is not a business. It is an institution of Government which people are forced to pay for. It should be required to have a salary cap in line with that of the highest paid civil servant because that is what effectively people who work or appear on the BBC are. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

28 Jul 20 4.43pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

any business that pays Gary Lineker �2m a year should be shut for that reason alone!

I agree with everything you posted other than this. Any business can pay whatever it wants to who ever it wants. Lives or dies by its commercial decision.

The BBC though is not a business. It is an institution of Government which people are forced to pay for. It should be required to have a salary cap in line with that of the highest paid civil servant because that is what effectively people who work or appear on the BBC are.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Jul 20 4.48pm
Why can't the beeb refresh their staff like Lineker I get fed up with the same old faces saying the same old things. What do the same old team Shearer Wright actually say? 'He will be disappointed with that'. How illuminating.
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steeleye20

Croydon 28 Jul 20 4.48pm

Why can't the beeb refresh their staff like Lineker I get fed up with the same old faces saying the same old things.

What do the same old team Shearer Wright actually say?

'He will be disappointed with that'.

How illuminating.

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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jul 20 4.59pm
Originally posted by Matov I agree with everything you posted other than this. Any business can pay whatever it wants to who ever it wants. Lives or dies by its commercial decision. The BBC though is not a business. It is an institution of Government which people are forced to pay for. It should be required to have a salary cap in line with that of the highest paid civil servant because that is what effectively people who work or appear on the BBC are. I like the idea treat them like public servants of course I would rather abolish the licence fee but in the meantime your idea has merit. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 28 Jul 20 4.59pm

Originally posted by Matov

I agree with everything you posted other than this. Any business can pay whatever it wants to who ever it wants. Lives or dies by its commercial decision.

The BBC though is not a business. It is an institution of Government which people are forced to pay for. It should be required to have a salary cap in line with that of the highest paid civil servant because that is what effectively people who work or appear on the BBC are.

I like the idea treat them like public servants of course I would rather abolish the licence fee but in the meantime your idea has merit.

One more point

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Eaglecoops CR3 28 Jul 20 5.11pm
About 15 years ago I had the pleasure of staying at the BBC�s training centre in Evesham for a few weeks whilst holding a few training courses. I shiite you not, the food is gourmet standard, I had a four poster bed in a grand wing of the house and silver service 4 meals a day. Opulence exudes from everyone corridor all paid for by the licence fee. To top it all they have one of the largest underground nuclear bunkers in the country there which is fully kitted out to broadcast news in the event of war. They are a dinosaur and along with those working there relics of the past. It is time to move on from funding their lavish lifestyles and their political bias. Defund the BBC.
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CR3 28 Jul 20 5.11pm

About 15 years ago I had the pleasure of staying at the BBC�s training centre in Evesham for a few weeks whilst holding a few training courses. I shiite you not, the food is gourmet standard, I had a four poster bed in a grand wing of the house and silver service 4 meals a day. Opulence exudes from everyone corridor all paid for by the licence fee.

To top it all they have one of the largest underground nuclear bunkers in the country there which is fully kitted out to broadcast news in the event of war.

They are a dinosaur and along with those working there relics of the past. It is time to move on from funding their lavish lifestyles and their political bias. Defund the BBC.

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