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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Really? Congratulations on the straw grasping.
He could also get a writer to create a new character.

He could but if the point was being directed at the way Bond is to be perceived then he wouldn't.

 

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Originally posted by Nicholas91

And changed their surname to 'Bond' presumably? Or is 'Bond' of Swahili origin?

I'm not sure if you are having a laugh or do live in some sort of alternate reality occasionally.

Neither. All I am doing is pointing out that some Directors have some strange and challenging ideas. Nobody is compelled to like them, or watch them. I probably wouldn't either, but some would. It takes all sorts!

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He could but if the point was being directed at the way Bond is to be perceived then he wouldn't.

The point is that James Bond is a White character. In the same way John Shaft is a Black character. Why change either?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why?

If a Director wants to make a statement he can cast it whichever way he wants. That's the whole point. In the Fleming books was Bond's skin colour even mentioned, or are you making assumptions based on every actor cast so far?

In the novel 'Live And Let Die', it states that James Bond and Felix Leiter stand out like a sore thumb, as they are two white men in a predominantly black area.

 


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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 22 Mar 23 12.55am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The point is that James Bond is a White character. In the same way John Shaft is a Black character. Why change either?

Tell that to the depiction(s) of Jesus.. Is there any race he hasn't be depicted as yet logically he wasn't black or white.

 

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I don't have a problem with the modern day Bond being black. It's modern Britain after all. However, he won't do much good undercover in Eastern Europe, that's for sure. So he'll pretty much have to deal with threats from elsewhere.

 


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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 22 Mar 23 12.12pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I don't have a problem with the modern day Bond being black. It's modern Britain after all. However, he won't do much good undercover in Eastern Europe, that's for sure. So he'll pretty much have to deal with threats from elsewhere.

Sounds like a sensible stance. There are tonnes of changes between the Bond movies and books that people appear to not care a jot about, but then when it comes to race, it's panic attack time. As you rightly say this is modern Britain (people could arbitrarily take issue with the fact that the books are set in the modern day too) and so someone like Idris Elba playing the role - something that's very unlikely to happen now anyway - should hardly send eyes spinning.

I get the gripe about everything having a modern take nowadays, but at the same time I doubt those with that stance ever took issue with white characters playing non white roles in the past, something that was hardly unheard of previously. As is the ebb and flow of life. For those offended by the present over the past, there's plenty of movies and series from the past to return to. I myself am partial to a bit of bra pinging à la On the Buses from time to time.


 

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It could well be a redundant conversation anyway. James Bond died at the end of the last film and for most of it's run time 007 was played by Lashana Lynch.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


It could well be a redundant conversation anyway. James Bond died at the end of the last film and for most of it's run time 007 was played by Lashana Lynch.

The weirdest/best guess I have on this is that Daniel Craig Bond will have been cloned into an evil Bond from a single strand of his DNA. There'll be something missing, like emotion or something.
The new 007 will have licence to kill him. Only in the death scene will the evil Bond Craig Clone cry.
Just a weird guess. We'll see.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


It could well be a redundant conversation anyway. James Bond died at the end of the last film and for most of it's run time 007 was played by Lashana Lynch.

Except that at the very end of the film a message comes on the screen stating that James Bond will return (not 007)…

 


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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Except that at the very end of the film a message comes on the screen stating that James Bond will return (not 007)…

And obviously logic as no part to play or the Bond from Dr No would be over 90. Maybe he'll be like Kenny from South Park and get killed in every film. Or become a horse and win at Cheltenham using rocket powered hooves.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And obviously logic as no part to play or the Bond from Dr No would be over 90. Maybe he'll be like Kenny from South Park and get killed in every film. Or become a horse and win at Cheltenham using rocket powered hooves.

You are getting into the swing of this.

Who knows what a future Director could do? Or in re-imagining one of the original books.

 

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