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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Jun 20 9.17am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

To allow entry to thousands of single young men is sexist.

Seen the photos of the refugee boats ? Not seen any young women in the photos.


Feminists love open borders and free love.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jun 20 11.10am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

To allow entry to thousands of single young men is sexist.

Seen the photos of the refugee boats ? Not seen any young women in the photos.


Feminists love open borders and free love.

It is not uncommon for the boats to have a woman (often pregnant) on board and also a couple of children

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jun 20 11.29am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

To allow entry to thousands of single young men is sexist.

Seen the photos of the refugee boats ? Not seen any young women in the photos.


Feminists love open borders and free love.

The concept of women and children first seems to have sunk with the Titanic! Travelling from places that are too dangerous but leave wives and children behind

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Jun 20 11.53am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Its funny how today is the 80th anniversary of the founding of 'Le Resistance'(im only saying that once), & Macron(French PM, not the shirt maker) & other bods are all in London meeting our PM & laying wreaths at memorials like the Cenotaph & Churchills statue. Wonder if border controls/migrants crossing will be talked about?

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 18 Jun 20 12.01pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

It's nice that migrants still want to come here rather than to any other European country despite how racist we are and how poorly we've treated non-white people for centuries.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jun 20 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's nice that migrants still want to come here rather than to any other European country despite how racist we are and how poorly we've treated non-white people for centuries.

Tut tut

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Jun 20 1.55pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's nice that migrants still want to come here rather than to any other European country.

The men in Poland/Hungary/Serbia are not cucks.

 


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View djcpfc's Profile djcpfc Flag Warminster Road, Brisbane Ex-pat 21 Jun 20 7.59am Send a Private Message to djcpfc Add djcpfc as a friend

Like I said I see the whole situation as regrettable. Where I am in the world right now frankly has nothing to do with, but if you want to use that as a stick, well...

Regardless how they present we still need to process their cases with dignity. I accept that. These people are human and to dehumanise them and blame the French for there being isnít helping. Australia detain indefinitely and it is deplorable, and abhorrent. I follow the movement against that here because itís important, it says everything about a nation how it treats those that are suffering.

I didnít say you were racist. This thread is full of hate though. There isnít a really a constructive message amongst the comments. So if there is an answer to this problem the combined discussions of Palace fans is worth little.

We need to focus our efforts on destroying the pipelines and stop the traffickers, we need these people to help us achieve that, and we need to start supporting a world that reduces the displacement of people, through wars and economics.

There is case that by EU states turning a blind eye to these people transiting through the Schengen area compounds issues. Collectively we should take some responsibility for the burden that this issue creates, by that is a side issue here, because we want to focus on Pierre dumping Ďrabid foreignersí on our shores. Maybe we should start by talking to Hungary they mirror many of the views expressed here. See how we get on eh? Maybe we should be like Hungary? Eh Spiderman?

Originally posted by Spiderman

I donít even why I am bothering to reply to someone who has decided to move to the other side of the world but I will just reiterate that, after 40 years working in Immigration, the vast majority are not refugees they are economic migrants. Most arrive with no documents so we do not know who they are. Trying to protect the future of my kids makes me small minded does it? Fine why did you leave? You coming back anytime soon? How do Australia deal with arriving refugees? A lot tougher than we do, obviously that didnít stop you going! Out protesting are you?
Please donít try and make out my views make me some sort of racist, as you know nothing about me.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 21 Jun 20 8.38am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by djcpfc

Like I said I see the whole situation as regrettable. Where I am in the world right now frankly has nothing to do with, but if you want to use that as a stick, well...

Regardless how they present we still need to process their cases with dignity. I accept that. These people are human and to dehumanise them and blame the French for there being isnít helping. Australia detain indefinitely and it is deplorable, and abhorrent. I follow the movement against that here because itís important, it says everything about a nation how it treats those that are suffering.

I didnít say you were racist. This thread is full of hate though. There isnít a really a constructive message amongst the comments. So if there is an answer to this problem the combined discussions of Palace fans is worth little.

We need to focus our efforts on destroying the pipelines and stop the traffickers, we need these people to help us achieve that, and we need to start supporting a world that reduces the displacement of people, through wars and economics.

There is case that by EU states turning a blind eye to these people transiting through the Schengen area compounds issues. Collectively we should take some responsibility for the burden that this issue creates, by that is a side issue here, because we want to focus on Pierre dumping Ďrabid foreignersí on our shores. Maybe we should start by talking to Hungary they mirror many of the views expressed here. See how we get on eh? Maybe we should be like Hungary? Eh Spiderman?

The problem we face is that our idea of dealing with people with dignity is to throw money at it, giving them a home, cash and access to our welfare/health system which all has to be paid for. If there was no financial side to this and we were the size of Australia we could all be philanthropists In our understanding however the cost is prohibitive and quite simply we do not have room. Ultimately we are considered the soft touch of Europe and that is why getting here is a priority for migrants.

When people bang on about good causes they forget that the only money that governments have is what they collect off their tax payers and there comes a point where the people get sick to death of them giving it away rather than bettering the futures of the people that are paying towards it. Yes, there are specific circumstances that deserve our attention but we have to have a tighter policy on immigration. This is one of the main reasons why the majority voted for Brexit so that we could tighten our borders. I find it ironic that you are beating the drum for a better European approach but you live and presumably pay taxes in a country that has a far harsher approach to immigration.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 Jun 20 11.08am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by djcpfc

Like I said I see the whole situation as regrettable. Where I am in the world right now frankly has nothing to do with, but if you want to use that as a stick, well...

Regardless how they present we still need to process their cases with dignity. I accept that. These people are human and to dehumanise them and blame the French for there being isnít helping. Australia detain indefinitely and it is deplorable, and abhorrent. I follow the movement against that here because itís important, it says everything about a nation how it treats those that are suffering.

I didnít say you were racist. This thread is full of hate though. There isnít a really a constructive message amongst the comments. So if there is an answer to this problem the combined discussions of Palace fans is worth little.

We need to focus our efforts on destroying the pipelines and stop the traffickers, we need these people to help us achieve that, and we need to start supporting a world that reduces the displacement of people, through wars and economics.

There is case that by EU states turning a blind eye to these people transiting through the Schengen area compounds issues. Collectively we should take some responsibility for the burden that this issue creates, by that is a side issue here, because we want to focus on Pierre dumping Ďrabid foreignersí on our shores. Maybe we should start by talking to Hungary they mirror many of the views expressed here. See how we get on eh? Maybe we should be like Hungary? Eh Spiderman?

I agree with a lot you say but believe me, having dealt with and interviewed hundreds of ďrefugeesĒ they are afforded the utmost dignity. Very few are detained despite us not knowing who they are. Unfortunately the French, in particular, are to blame as they do not process those waiting to cross the Channel. If they did they would be their responsibility, as it is once in U.K. they cannot be removed.
Under the terms of UNHCR a genuine refugee will seek refuge in the first safe country they arrive in. Surely you can therefore see these are not genuine refugees they are economic migrants and the U.K. cannot take an indefinite number. Very few of those I interviewed over 30 odd years have been genuine refugees

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 Jun 20 11.21am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

I do not know but will have an educated guess that the perpetrator in the horrendous stabbing in Reading was someone who we had given refuge too.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 21 Jun 20 11.26am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I do not know but will have an educated guess that the perpetrator in the horrendous stabbing in Reading was someone who we had given refuge too.

rumoured to have shouted something in an unfamiliar language.

do you really think it was a disgruntled Danish Software Engineer ?

 


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