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cryrst The garden of England 18 Jun 20 6.02pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger And what exactly is the change they want? What exactly is it that needs changing so badly? I sort of asked exactly the same. What can change apart from a 'your nicked' thesaurus. Fundamentally apart from bringing in inquests for a bame not getting benefits, a job or a house; or positive discrimination we are one of the best and most diverse nations on the planet.i really dont beleive any changes apart from a tweak here and there are needed. Although I'm not black so yes we do need some help with ideas.
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cryrst

The garden of England 18 Jun 20 6.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And what exactly is the change they want?

What exactly is it that needs changing so badly?

I sort of asked exactly the same. What can change apart from a 'your nicked' thesaurus.
Fundamentally apart from bringing in inquests for a bame not getting benefits, a job or a house; or positive discrimination we are one of the best and most diverse nations on the planet.i really dont beleive any changes apart from a tweak here and there are needed. Although I'm not black so yes we do need some help with ideas.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jun 20 7.17pm
Originally posted by cryrst I sort of asked exactly the same. What can change apart from a 'your nicked' thesaurus. Fundamentally apart from bringing in inquests for a bame not getting benefits, a job or a house; or positive discrimination we are one of the best and most diverse nations on the planet.i really dont beleive any changes apart from a tweak here and there are needed. Although I'm not black so yes we do need some help with ideas. If you believe that everything bad that happens to you is because you are Black then I guess you want to change everything all the time because that way you never have to blame yourself.
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Originally posted by cryrst

If you believe that everything bad that happens to you is because you are Black then I guess you want to change everything all the time because that way you never have to blame yourself.

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cryrst The garden of England 18 Jun 20 8.11pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger If you believe that everything bad that happens to you is because you are Black then I guess you want to change everything all the time because that way you never have to blame yourself. In the usa 75% of police reform is agreed red and blue. Because the 25% isnt the dems dont want to start these reforms. a bit of my way or the highway. I know it's off kilter but many buildings are design and build. Meaning they dont know how they will fit the roof but let's start the foundations and walls as we know where they are. Let's work on the roof design and build in the time it takes to do the footings and walls. That scenario is the only way anything gets done. When I got married I didnt have a 30 year plan as of next month. What changes are wanted and what changes can we start on to move forwards. A bit jumbled but hope some get what I mean.
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cryrst

The garden of England 18 Jun 20 8.11pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If you believe that everything bad that happens to you is because you are Black then I guess you want to change everything all the time because that way you never have to blame yourself.

In the usa 75% of police reform is agreed red and blue. Because the 25% isnt the dems dont want to start these reforms. a bit of my way or the highway. I know it's off kilter but many buildings are design and build. Meaning they dont know how they will fit the roof but let's start the foundations and walls as we know where they are. Let's work on the roof design and build in the time it takes to do the footings and walls. That scenario is the only way anything gets done. When I got married I didnt have a 30 year plan as of next month. What changes are wanted and what changes can we start on to move forwards. A bit jumbled but hope some get what I mean.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jun 20 9.57pm
Originally posted by cryrst In the usa 75% of police reform is agreed red and blue. Because the 25% isnt the dems dont want to start these reforms. a bit of my way or the highway. I know it's off kilter but many buildings are design and build. Meaning they dont know how they will fit the roof but let's start the foundations and walls as we know where they are. Let's work on the roof design and build in the time it takes to do the footings and walls. That scenario is the only way anything gets done. When I got married I didnt have a 30 year plan as of next month. What changes are wanted and what changes can we start on to move forwards. A bit jumbled but hope some get what I mean. From my perspective, I believe this country has bent over backwards already to limit racism to an absolute minimum. However, you will never remove majority prejudice or personally acquired prejudice and certainly won't stop people favouring their own. That is human nature. It is easy to assume that those who don't support BLM are against 'equality' The problem is that equality is not about making people equal but allowing people an equal opportunity to succeed by their own merits. This is where positive discrimination is just not acceptable or practical. I strongly suspect that any amount of concessions to the likes of BLM will never be enough. They are out for power, not fairness. This is about politics, not lives.
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Hrolf The Ganger

18 Jun 20 9.57pm

Originally posted by cryrst

From my perspective, I believe this country has bent over backwards already to limit racism to an absolute minimum.
However, you will never remove majority prejudice or personally acquired prejudice and certainly won't stop people favouring their own. That is human nature.

It is easy to assume that those who don't support BLM are against 'equality'
The problem is that equality is not about making people equal but allowing people an equal opportunity to succeed by their own merits.
This is where positive discrimination is just not acceptable or practical.

I strongly suspect that any amount of concessions to the likes of BLM will never be enough. They are out for power, not fairness. This is about politics, not lives.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 20 10.20pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger From my perspective, I believe this country has bent over backwards already to limit racism to an absolute minimum. However, you will never remove majority prejudice or personally acquired prejudice and certainly won't stop people favouring their own. That is human nature. It is easy to assume that those who don't support BLM are against 'equality' The problem is that equality is not about making people equal but allowing people an equal opportunity to succeed by their own merits. This is where positive discrimination is just not acceptable or practical. I strongly suspect that any amount of concessions to the likes of BLM will never be enough. They are out for power, not fairness. This is about politics, not lives. I can well understand why you got banned on the BBS. Views like this would send them into an apoplectic meltdown and needing medication for a considerable period of time. They may not ever get over it. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 20 10.20pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I strongly suspect that any amount of concessions to the likes of BLM will never be enough. They are out for power, not fairness. This is about politics, not lives.

I can well understand why you got banned on the BBS. Views like this would send them into an apoplectic meltdown and needing medication for a considerable period of time. They may not ever get over it.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jun 20 10.43pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt I can well understand why you got banned on the BBS. Views like this would send them into an apoplectic meltdown and needing medication for a considerable period of time. They may not ever get over it. It's a pity that they take such a dim view of reason and honesty.
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Hrolf The Ganger

18 Jun 20 10.43pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It's a pity that they take such a dim view of reason and honesty.

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Mapletree Croydon 18 Jun 20 10.53pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger It's a pity that they take such a dim view of reason and honesty. And on more than one occasion wasn�t it? All those silly people and just one clever you. Edited by Mapletree (18 Jun 2020 10.56pm)
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Mapletree

Croydon 18 Jun 20 10.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's a pity that they take such a dim view of reason and honesty.

And on more than one occasion wasn�t it?

All those silly people and just one clever you.

Edited by Mapletree (18 Jun 2020 10.56pm)

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 18 Jun 20 11.20pm
Simon Jordan on question time, repeated sunday 6pm on parliament channel
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Any european country i fancy! 18 Jun 20 11.20pm

Simon Jordan on question time, repeated sunday 6pm on parliament channel

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Jun 20 11.34pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Simon Jordan on question time, repeated sunday 6pm on parliament channel Simon Jordan? Our current chairman is on QT. It�s rubbish and boring and he hasn�t said a lot. He has a lot to say on football normally. You can tell he�s a free market thinker if you didn�t know him. COYP
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Caterham 18 Jun 20 11.34pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Simon Jordan on question time, repeated sunday 6pm on parliament channel

Simon Jordan?

Our current chairman is on QT. It�s rubbish and boring and he hasn�t said a lot. He has a lot to say on football normally. You can tell he�s a free market thinker if you didn�t know him.

COYP

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 18 Jun 20 11.49pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Simon Jordan? Our current chairman is on QT. It�s rubbish and boring and he hasn�t said a lot. He has a lot to say on football normally. You can tell he�s a free market thinker if you didn�t know him. My bad, Steve Parish i ment, just said he wouldn"t have a statue up now of a slave trader who killed 19k people, also that we got over 200 at the academy, bit smug actually!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 18 Jun 20 11.49pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Simon Jordan?

Our current chairman is on QT. It�s rubbish and boring and he hasn�t said a lot. He has a lot to say on football normally. You can tell he�s a free market thinker if you didn�t know him.

My bad, Steve Parish i ment, just said he wouldn"t have a statue up now of a slave trader who killed 19k people, also that we got over 200 at the academy, bit smug actually!

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corkery Cork City 19 Jun 20 12.50am
So...how long until someone finds something offensive about the Crystal Palace? We'll never die
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corkery

Cork City 19 Jun 20 12.50am

So...how long until someone finds something offensive about the Crystal Palace?

We'll never die

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 19 Jun 20 12.51am
Originally posted by croydon proud My bad, Steve Parish i ment, just said he wouldn"t have a statue up now of a slave trader who killed 19k people, also that we got over 200 at the academy, bit smug actually! He looked incredibly skinny, even for his standards. He looks more and more like Mr Burns from the Simpsons every day. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 19 Jun 20 12.51am

Originally posted by croydon proud

My bad, Steve Parish i ment, just said he wouldn"t have a statue up now of a slave trader who killed 19k people, also that we got over 200 at the academy, bit smug actually!

He looked incredibly skinny, even for his standards.

He looks more and more like Mr Burns from the Simpsons every day.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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