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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 28 Dec 20 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

I never wanted VAR and for the most part (except when penalties are overturned for diving and red cards are given for off the ball incidents which refs have missed) I hate having it, but wasn't the ref the problem in that game rather than VAR?

I wasn't watching the game for first half but had the ref not blown whistle early then surely Barnes goal would've stood.
Didn't think Pope challenge was a foul but did ref give penalty or did VAR?


Yes, you’re right, the referee made some very poor decisions. He awarded the penalty for a foul on Bamford when Pope had clearly taken the ball however when VAR checked the decision, the decision was allowed to remain.

Secondly, and even worse, was the foul adjudged to have been committed by Ben Mee. Never in a million years was it a foul by Mee and furthermore it WAS a foul by the Leeds goalkeeper, with a leading knee planted in the back of Mee before he spilled the ball. The referee blew too early yes, however VAR should have checked the penalty incident on Mee and it didn’t. An absolute shocker!

I would post a link but the web is awash with articles this morning. MOTD also heavily criticised both the VAR decisions and the referees performance.

 

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View Superhorns3's Profile Superhorns3 Flag Harpdenden 30 Dec 20 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Superhorns3 Add Superhorns3 as a friend

It was that refs 6 game all season .

Think it showed and he probably won’t get another soon .

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Dec 20 12.44pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Superhorns3

It was that refs 6 game all season .

Think it showed and he probably won’t get another soon .

He'll probably be promoted.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 06 Mar 21 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Handball rule changed as football's law makers Ifab confirms new accidental ruling - [Link]

Looks like the handball laws will be updated in July. Will hopefully be clearer to us all.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 06 Mar 21 1.25pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

It will remain a handball offence if a player scores accidentally with their hand or arm, or uses their hand or arm directly before scoring.

So it is a partial climb-down

As RH says, handball should be deliberate.

If we had not had this constant meddling in recent years, and not had VAR at all, I submit we would be much better off.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Mar 21 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It will remain a handball offence if a player scores accidentally with their hand or arm, or uses their hand or arm directly before scoring.

So it is a partial climb-down

As RH says, handball should be deliberate.

If we had not had this constant meddling in recent years, and not had VAR at all, I submit we would be much better off.

VAR just provides the detailed evidence for the officials to adjudicate according to the latest handball rulings, which I accept have been a few in recent seasons.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

VAR just provides the detailed evidence for the officials to adjudicate according to the latest handball rulings, which I accept have been a few in recent seasons.

Hopefully it is just that they cannot admit to being plain wrong, and this is a stop on the route back to deliberate handball.

Regards W

 

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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Handball rule changed as football's law makers Ifab confirms new accidental ruling - [Link]

Looks like the handball laws will be updated in July. Will hopefully be clearer to us all.

Or knowing football and the way it is governed, less clear. This now becomes subjective which inevitably leads to big club bias.

 


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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 07 Mar 21 10.23am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It will remain a handball offence if a player scores accidentally with their hand or arm, or uses their hand or arm directly before scoring.

So it is a partial climb-down

As RH says, handball should be deliberate.

If we had not had this constant meddling in recent years, and not had VAR at all, I submit we would be much better off.

I wholeheartedly agree.

What with our current anti-football and the excitement nullifying VAR, I’m likely to watch lower league and non league games once crowds can return.

I’ll still renew mine and my sons season ticket, to support the club, but I’m not subjecting him to the s***e served up at home against the likes of Brighton, Newcastle, Liverpool, Burnley and Fulham...especially when VAR then destroys any of the excitement were we to actually score a goal, as it searches for 2 minutes to find a way of disallowing it.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Mar 21 11.22am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Some new ideas and a discussion of VAR:

[Link]

 


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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 07 Mar 21 11.57am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Scott Parker, makes a good point when he says, we should not be trying to make obscure situations in the game , perfect.
In some ways it’s , related to the PC world we live in now, in so much as every action is put under a microscope , for the imperfections .
It sanitises every situation to the point of becoming boring.
He thinks it will kill the game in time. I think it has killed some of the mystery in the game already. And it certainly along side of some bizarre changes of rules, is slowly turning football at the highest level into a ,” blow out”, for anoraks.
Thank god the kids can still play the game as it was meant to be played with all its marginal decision left to the man in the middle.

Edited by Putitout (07 Mar 2021 12.25pm)

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 11 Mar 21 9.29am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Last night's latest VAR faux-pas really takes the biscuit.

The VAR match centre said: "The on-field referee felt that Alex McCarthy got a slight touch on the ball, and VAR couldn't see anything to disprove that."

If it can't do that, what possible use is it?

 

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