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EddieMac 10 Jul 20 9.10am
Originally posted by Kant I haven’t noticed any of these killer balls into space that Meyer’s inferior team mates have been unable to take advantage of. I noticed in the Chelsea game the first thing he did when he came on was to give the ball away. I’m pretty sure he made no killer passes or runs thereafter. He’s sub average, lightweight and needs to be shipped out pronto. Why people on here are so sympathetic to him is beyond me. I know he was hyped up when he arrived but surely people have seen enough to know he isn’t much cop. I’m absolutely delighted someone else sees what I see. If he hadn’t of come with a reputation then no one would care less about him. He needs to move on.
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EddieMac

10 Jul 20 9.10am

Originally posted by Kant

I haven’t noticed any of these killer balls into space that Meyer’s inferior team mates have been unable to take advantage of. I noticed in the Chelsea game the first thing he did when he came on was to give the ball away. I’m pretty sure he made no killer passes or runs thereafter. He’s sub average, lightweight and needs to be shipped out pronto. Why people on here are so sympathetic to him is beyond me. I know he was hyped up when he arrived but surely people have seen enough to know he isn’t much cop.

I’m absolutely delighted someone else sees what I see. If he hadn’t of come with a reputation then no one would care less about him. He needs to move on.

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Eaglecoops CR3 10 Jul 20 9.10am
Originally posted by Kant I haven’t noticed any of these killer balls into space that Meyer’s inferior team mates have been unable to take advantage of. I noticed in the Chelsea game the first thing he did when he came on was to give the ball away. I’m pretty sure he made no killer passes or runs thereafter. He’s sub average, lightweight and needs to be shipped out pronto. Why people on here are so sympathetic to him is beyond me. I know he was hyped up when he arrived but surely people have seen enough to know he isn’t much cop. Possibly because they have a different view of his abilities to you?
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Eaglecoops

CR3 10 Jul 20 9.10am

Originally posted by Kant

I haven’t noticed any of these killer balls into space that Meyer’s inferior team mates have been unable to take advantage of. I noticed in the Chelsea game the first thing he did when he came on was to give the ball away. I’m pretty sure he made no killer passes or runs thereafter. He’s sub average, lightweight and needs to be shipped out pronto. Why people on here are so sympathetic to him is beyond me. I know he was hyped up when he arrived but surely people have seen enough to know he isn’t much cop.

Possibly because they have a different view of his abilities to you?

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EddieMac 10 Jul 20 9.13am
Originally posted by Vaibow Zaha should be sold, replaced with a player that will compliment a midfield system that promotes Meyer. He has to be be built around and given a season run out. We also need to replace Ward with a young right back. We need to sell Sakho. We need to blood in a youth defender... Tomkins, Cahill, Dan, Kelly are more than enough at CB. We need to sell Benteke and cut out losses regardless with him... or, make it work where he plays and has Meyer in the midfield too... Either way, this summer we need to change a stale environment. Absolutely laughable statement! Sell our best player and then build a team around a player who has done nothing to warrant a starting place yet alone build a team around him.
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EddieMac

10 Jul 20 9.13am

Originally posted by Vaibow

Zaha should be sold, replaced with a player that will compliment a midfield system that promotes Meyer. He has to be be built around and given a season run out.

We also need to replace Ward with a young right back.

We need to sell Sakho. We need to blood in a youth defender... Tomkins, Cahill, Dan, Kelly are more than enough at CB.

We need to sell Benteke and cut out losses regardless with him... or, make it work where he plays and has Meyer in the midfield too...

Either way, this summer we need to change a stale environment.

Absolutely laughable statement! Sell our best player and then build a team around a player who has done nothing to warrant a starting place yet alone build a team around him.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Jul 20 10.09am
Originally posted by Vaibow Zaha should be sold, replaced with a player that will compliment a midfield system that promotes Meyer. He has to be be built around and given a season run out. We also need to replace Ward with a young right back. We need to sell Sakho. We need to blood in a youth defender... Tomkins, Cahill, Dan, Kelly are more than enough at CB. We need to sell Benteke and cut out losses regardless with him... or, make it work where he plays and has Meyer in the midfield too... Either way, this summer we need to change a stale environment. Sorry Vaibow; can't agree with this. Dealing with Meyer first, I am someone who would like to see him given a good run of games in his preferred position, but no way has he shown that he's good enough that we should consider building a team around him. As for Zaha, I'd like him to have the chance to go to a bigger team, but quite frankly, after his less than inspiring performances this season, I can't see any team offering the kind of money that would persuade the board to sell. I'd like to see Wilf given a free rein. That would give the customary two/three opponents tasked with marking him (often literally) a headache.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Jul 20 10.09am

Originally posted by Vaibow

Zaha should be sold, replaced with a player that will compliment a midfield system that promotes Meyer. He has to be be built around and given a season run out.

We also need to replace Ward with a young right back.

We need to sell Sakho. We need to blood in a youth defender... Tomkins, Cahill, Dan, Kelly are more than enough at CB.

We need to sell Benteke and cut out losses regardless with him... or, make it work where he plays and has Meyer in the midfield too...

Either way, this summer we need to change a stale environment.

Sorry Vaibow; can't agree with this.
Dealing with Meyer first, I am someone who would like to see him given a good run of games in his preferred position, but no way has he shown that he's good enough that we should consider building a team around him.

As for Zaha, I'd like him to have the chance to go to a bigger team, but quite frankly, after his less than inspiring performances this season, I can't see any team offering the kind of money that would persuade the board to sell. I'd like to see Wilf given a free rein. That would give the customary two/three opponents tasked with marking him (often literally) a headache.

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Den1923 10 Jul 20 10.14am
Originally posted by NEILLO That's 4 options ! As I said, the squad needs a rebuild of sorts but that's not going to happen in 1 window, so it's feasible that Roy starts that process but may not finish it. If / when we complete he signing of Nathan Ferguson, I see that as the start of the process. We are also being linked ( I know ) with a number of players all of which are younger than those we currently have. The trouble is though, Parish/Freeman will not do anything until the last 24 hours of any transfer window, followed by the usual result, we could not get the deal over the line in time! Now would be the time to give fringe players some opportunities given the Europe pipe dream is over and relegation not a threat, but he aren't blessed with too many of them in truth. I'd certainly like to see what young Mitchell can do at left back.
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Den1923

10 Jul 20 10.14am

Originally posted by NEILLO

That's 4 options !

As I said, the squad needs a rebuild of sorts but that's not going to happen in 1 window, so it's feasible that Roy starts that process but may not finish it.

If / when we complete he signing of Nathan Ferguson, I see that as the start of the process. We are also being linked ( I know ) with a number of players all of which are younger than those we currently have.

The trouble is though, Parish/Freeman will not do anything until the last 24 hours of any transfer window, followed by the usual result, we could not get the deal over the line in time!

Now would be the time to give fringe players some opportunities given the Europe pipe dream is over and relegation not a threat, but he aren't blessed with too many of them in truth. I'd certainly like to see what young Mitchell can do at left back.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 10.29am
Originally posted by Den1923 Nathan Ferguson might not be the answer. I have not seen a real demand for his services and WBA have done very well without him, utilising Darnell Furlong and also Dara O'Shea at right-back. Ferguson last played for WBA in January. There are other right-backs in the Championship who have received more plaudits than Ferguson, examples of which are Jayden Bogle, Mahlon Romeo and Matty Cash. Dael Fry of Middlesbrough has played at right-back, in central defence and also as a defensive midfielder. Edited by Willo (10 Jul 2020 10.31am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 10.29am

Originally posted by Den1923

Nathan Ferguson might not be the answer.

I have not seen a real demand for his services and WBA have done very well without him, utilising Darnell Furlong and also Dara O'Shea at right-back. Ferguson last played for WBA in January.

There are other right-backs in the Championship who have received more plaudits than Ferguson, examples of which are Jayden Bogle, Mahlon Romeo and Matty Cash.
Dael Fry of Middlesbrough has played at right-back, in central defence and also as a defensive midfielder.

Edited by Willo (10 Jul 2020 10.31am)

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palace99 New Mills 10 Jul 20 10.56am
2021/22 will be a massive season for Palace. Most of our ageing quad is out of contract then and all are on big wages. Roy will be gone by then too, so assuming we stay up next season there will be a lot for the new manager to do. This planning needs to start now. The next 2 transfer windows are huge but money must be tight with revenue down due to covid etc. Amazing when you look at our salary list - top 4 (Zaha, Benteke, Meyer and Sakho) have contributed so little this season. This has to change going forward
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New Mills 10 Jul 20 10.56am

2021/22 will be a massive season for Palace.

Most of our ageing quad is out of contract then and all are on big wages.

Roy will be gone by then too, so assuming we stay up next season there will be a lot for the new manager to do.

This planning needs to start now. The next 2 transfer windows are huge but money must be tight with revenue down due to covid etc.

Amazing when you look at our salary list - top 4 (Zaha, Benteke, Meyer and Sakho) have contributed so little this season. This has to change going forward

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bicycle repair man 10 Jul 20 11.01am
Meyer is so hugely overrated by some Palace ,and I don't know why. To me he's no better than someone like Johnny Williams, what is the attraction ?
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Meyer is so hugely overrated by some Palace ,and I don't know why.
To me he's no better than someone like Johnny Williams, what is the attraction ?

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 11.08am
Originally posted by bicycle repair man Meyer is so hugely overrated by some Palace ,and I don't know why. To me he's no better than someone like Johnny Williams, what is the attraction ? In my humble estimation he is a 'Square peg' in a 'Round hole' and I have not been impressed with the peg. Perhaps in a team with a different system and style he might be far more effective.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 11.08am

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Meyer is so hugely overrated by some Palace ,and I don't know why.
To me he's no better than someone like Johnny Williams, what is the attraction ?

In my humble estimation he is a 'Square peg' in a 'Round hole' and I have not been impressed with the peg.
Perhaps in a team with a different system and style he might be far more effective.

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cryrst The garden of England 10 Jul 20 11.43am
Originally posted by doombear Sorry Vaibow; can't agree with this. Dealing with Meyer first, I am someone who would like to see him given a good run of games in his preferred position, but no way has he shown that he's good enough that we should consider building a team around him. As for Zaha, I'd like him to have the chance to go to a bigger team, but quite frankly, after his less than inspiring performances this season, I can't see any team offering the kind of money that would persuade the board to sell. I'd like to see Wilf given a free rein. That would give the customary two/three opponents tasked with marking him (often literally) a headache. Having a free reign has done pogba no harm. Hes playing well and enjoying his football.
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cryrst

The garden of England 10 Jul 20 11.43am

Originally posted by doombear

Having a free reign has done pogba no harm.
Hes playing well and enjoying his football.

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PatrickA London 11 Jul 20 8.15am
Talking of Meyer’s cost to Palace being in the region of £20 million I have just read an article on Oliver Burke who has cost WBA a similar sum, albeit with a transfer fee included. We were very closely linked with Burke as Freedman knew him from his Forest days and Burke was a very highly rated youngster. A number of years on his career does not appear to be going anywhere. Just goes to show that transfers can be something of a lottery although clubs like Brentford seem to have more hits than misses.
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PatrickA

London 11 Jul 20 8.15am

Talking of Meyer’s cost to Palace being in the region of £20 million I have just read an article on Oliver Burke who has cost WBA a similar sum, albeit with a transfer fee included.
We were very closely linked with Burke as Freedman knew him from his Forest days and Burke was a very highly rated youngster.
A number of years on his career does not appear to be going anywhere.
Just goes to show that transfers can be something of a lottery although clubs like Brentford seem to have more hits than misses.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 20 9.37am
Originally posted by PatrickA Talking of Meyer’s cost to Palace being in the region of £20 million I have just read an article on Oliver Burke who has cost WBA a similar sum, albeit with a transfer fee included. We were very closely linked with Burke as Freedman knew him from his Forest days and Burke was a very highly rated youngster. A number of years on his career does not appear to be going anywhere. Just goes to show that transfers can be something of a lottery although clubs like Brentford seem to have more hits than misses. It was Pulis who signed Burke for WBA, I believe the fee was £13.75 Mill.He has been playing at Alaves this season.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 20 9.37am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Talking of Meyer’s cost to Palace being in the region of £20 million I have just read an article on Oliver Burke who has cost WBA a similar sum, albeit with a transfer fee included.
We were very closely linked with Burke as Freedman knew him from his Forest days and Burke was a very highly rated youngster.
A number of years on his career does not appear to be going anywhere.
Just goes to show that transfers can be something of a lottery although clubs like Brentford seem to have more hits than misses.

It was Pulis who signed Burke for WBA, I believe the fee was £13.75 Mill.He has been playing at Alaves this season.

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