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TheBigToePunt 09 Feb 21 6.19pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
We've got another post here about our youngsters not being good enough. If there are no youngsters as good as Luka, I would be surprised. Put Townsend and Dann in that category too. Most young, able-bodied human beings can do those things against people of equivalent standard. It's whether they can do it in the Premier League that matters. Our youth team, other clubs reserves, and/or the lower leagues are probably full of lads who look better at that level than Luka does at his, but that's irrelevant really. Take a youth, reserve or League 2 player with better stats (pass completion, shots on target etc) than Luka, and swap the two of them. The former will quickly be out of his depth and unable to replicate his previous stats, whilst Luka would look like Glenn Hoddle. A bit.
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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 09 Feb 21 7.36pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Most young, able-bodied human beings can do those things against people of equivalent standard. It's whether they can do it in the Premier League that matters. Our youth team, other clubs reserves, and/or the lower leagues are probably full of lads who look better at that level than Luka does at his, but that's irrelevant really. Take a youth, reserve or League 2 player with better stats (pass completion, shots on target etc) than Luka, and swap the two of them. The former will quickly be out of his depth and unable to replicate his previous stats, whilst Luka would look like Glenn Hoddle. A bit. Absolutely agree.
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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Feb 21 9.57am | |
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Interesting article about the youngest players at each PL club many did not have a successful Pl career some did at lower levels and some just washed out. It just shows how difficult it is to step up from the youth ranks.
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ASCPFC Online Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Feb 21 9.59am | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Most young, able-bodied human beings can do those things against people of equivalent standard. It's whether they can do it in the Premier League that matters. Our youth team, other clubs reserves, and/or the lower leagues are probably full of lads who look better at that level than Luka does at his, but that's irrelevant really. Take a youth, reserve or League 2 player with better stats (pass completion, shots on target etc) than Luka, and swap the two of them. The former will quickly be out of his depth and unable to replicate his previous stats, whilst Luka would look like Glenn Hoddle. A bit. I'm sorry, I do get your point. However, there is no point playing a guy who just can't play. In that case, we may as well give someone experience so that they are used to the level, and don't crumble in the Premier League.
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chris123 hove actually 10 Feb 21 10.28am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Interesting article about the youngest players at each PL club many did not have a successful Pl career some did at lower levels and some just washed out. It just shows how difficult it is to step up from the youth ranks. Or how bad our coaching is possibly?
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ASCPFC Online Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Feb 21 3.07pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Or how bad our coaching is possibly? Any of ours are by accident. Other teams actually try guys out. When they perform well, they get picked again. It's a concept in football called 'competition for places'. Perhaps our staff could Google it.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 11 Feb 21 5.06am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Ayew wins free kicks by the half way line but it isn't his fault that we never score from them. I follow Woosie and Gazza on the other forum as they know a lot about what goes on in the development and under 18 squads and they claim that there is no-one good enough for the first team at the moment including Scott Banks i get what your saying re. ayew, however my point was that in approx 75% of the free kicks he wins it would be more than possible for him to stay on his feet and take the ball forward with intent. on the development squad, what is the point if players can not see a clear pathway to the 1st team squad. im not saying, chuck a load of kids into the first team, however if you think about a minutes played to cost in wages then it makes perfect sense to bring a few through into the first team squad instesd of paying somebidy 70k a week to play literally no 1st team football. if it helped us break even financially then that alone would be a result and it is showing academy kids there is natural progression to the top table. because if the company i worked for only appointed external 55 year olds as new site managers a 25 year old me would leave them in a heartbeat.
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TheBigToePunt 11 Feb 21 9.14am | |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
i get what your saying re. ayew, however my point was that in approx 75% of the free kicks he wins it would be more than possible for him to stay on his feet and take the ball forward with intent. on the development squad, what is the point if players can not see a clear pathway to the 1st team squad. im not saying, chuck a load of kids into the first team, however if you think about a minutes played to cost in wages then it makes perfect sense to bring a few through into the first team squad instesd of paying somebidy 70k a week to play literally no 1st team football. if it helped us break even financially then that alone would be a result and it is showing academy kids there is natural progression to the top table. because if the company i worked for only appointed external 55 year olds as new site managers a 25 year old me would leave them in a heartbeat. You put the point very well, but a capable 25 year old can, with training and support, have a very good chance of being a good site manager in time. Its a challenging job but a bright person with a strong work ethic can learn to do it. Top flight football, on the other hand, requires a level of inherent talent which is rare as rocking horse s***.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Feb 21 11.58am | |
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Edited by doombear (18 Feb 2021 11.59am)
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