I wholeheartedly concur with these sentiments.

I feel that a little perspective is needed. Most black people aren't on the streets with BLM banners or complaining about anything, they're just getting on with their lives like you and me. It's important to get things in perspective rather than this sweeping and panicked "it's all over.. it's too late" attitude to everything from Brexit to Black people. People are becoming as narrow in their outlook as the activists they criticise. All that does, on both sides, is marginalise good people of all colours and creeds, whose numbers outweigh that of whatever circus is in town that week.

Edited by BlueJay (08 Jul 2020 11.17pm)

We have a thin blue line which, to be more effective, has to target people presenting themselves in certain ways. Stop and search which produces results naturally leads to selection of people to be stopped. Extreme balance would be to ensure that at a certain time each day a certain number of people are stopped, making sure for population reflection that great grand mothers living in Windsor are asked to explain themselves. I have been checked for inviting a police car to move from a side road to the main road.

That’s fair enough but apparently 100% of white people are the same person. And a richly empowered racist person at that.
I think the whole idea of the “black community” is odd. Of course people have friends and families but the idea that West Indians and Africans have any more in common than Welshmen and Canadians is questionable.

Until the full story comes out it would be best to reserve judgement. The worst thing about politics is that people take sides on issues and don't choose to see from the opposite perspective. Almost like both sides are triggered and whatever the opposition's position they automatically have to oppose it. A lot of people who are left will constantly support all leftist issues and the same for people on the right.
If people are constantly thinking like this it's a pretty straightforward way to create division within society.

Edited by sitdownstandup (09 Jul 2020 6.36am)

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

You make some valid points in your posts but lets address this notion of groupthink on race.

Black Lives Matter.

Whiteness.
White Lives Matter.
Its OK to be white.

First part good. Global organisations promoting the notion. Politicians going down on their knees. Statues pulled down whilst the police stand to one side. People encouraged to shop at 'black owned' business. All collective notions based on skin colour deemed by our leading cultural, buisness and policial elites to be be not only positive but ringfenced in terms of protection from criticism.

Next three parts? All bad. Things to be eradicated. Hate crimes to be even thought about, let alone promoted. A collective guilt and shame imposed because of events nobody in living memoroy played any part in, let alone profited from. 'Karens'. Told to read books. Or just leave. Get out of the way. Gammons openly derided. Don't even need to open their mouths. Just look at the way they look is more than enough justification.

Where is this group-think mentality coming from? Who is actively promoting it? Reinforcing it in our legal system through ideas such as 'hate crime' and so on? Conservatism by its very nature and its emphasis on meritocracy should be cosmopolitan. I truly get that. But we live in an age in which there is no true Conservativism being promoted.

You want us all to treat people as individuals then fine. A perfectly logical and rational position to take. But you cannot have 'group think' when it suits. We are either all categorised, and treated accordingly, by the pigment in our skin or we are not. The Left needs to make its mind up about that.

Edited by Matov (09 Jul 2020 7.06am)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.