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jeeagles Flag 12 Jul 20 7.56pm

If he’s old enough to write messages like that he’s old enough to known it’s wrong.

Certainly he needs the strongest possible punishment and some intervene to try and understand if he’s just an idiot or a little narcissist in the making.

The authorities should probably keep tabs on him for a long time.

Hopefully he grows up, but needs to understand actions have consequences.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Jul 20 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I have little time for racists, but I'm a realist. Kids can do exceptionally stupid attention seeking s*** and he's probably parroting the kind of atmosphere we has found himself around. It's pitiful but also a good opportunity to have this short sharp shock to learn from. Wanting to lock up a 12 year old doesn't sit well with me. There are better ways of letting someone know that if this is the standard of their conduct they're not going to go far in life. The kid needs to understand that, as does his family.

We should direct our attention to the sweeping, catch-all racist comments we sometimes see and hear from 'grown ups'. Children get their idea of what's right and wrong from adults and depending on who's the authority figure at home, that can lead to warped outlooks that don't serve children or society well.

Edited by BlueJay (12 Jul 2020 8.33pm)

You are right. Apologises I posted when still fuming about that display

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 Jul 20 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

If he’s old enough to write messages like that he’s old enough to known it’s wrong.

Certainly he needs the strongest possible punishment and some intervene to try and understand if he’s just an idiot or a little narcissist in the making.

The authorities should probably keep tabs on him for a long time.

Hopefully he grows up, but needs to understand actions have consequences.

These are hurty comments on the Internet by an immature boy and all this is getting a little hyperbolic.

Next I'm expecting someone to suggest cutting his hands off.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Jul 20 9.04pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

You are right. Apologises I posted when still fuming about that display

Join the club!

Edited by BlueJay (12 Jul 2020 9.05pm)

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 12 Jul 20 9.18pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Baires Eagle

I think that the content of the messages should be made public, that both parents should be held responsible and made to apologise in public. We need to see the parents faces on TV and have them say what they have got to say.

Edited by Baires Eagle (12 Jul 2020 8.09pm)

Really?? I spent the '80s in a Communist state and they forced us to do this, it was exactly the same. People swear at people all the time, you are exaggerating. Whether anger for race, physical appearance or favorite football team, all swearing and hatred are bad. We make too much case when someone does it because of race.


Originally posted by Baires Eagle

The message, which appears to be send on Saturday evening, read: ‘You better not score tomorrow you black c***. Or I’ll come to your house dressed as a ghost.’

The user, jackdolan_avfc, also sent Zaha a picture of the Ku Klux Klan and another racist image.


Edited by Baires Eagle (12 Jul 2020 8.09pm)


That's not even a threat, lol. It's a child's play. And if he sent Klu Klux Klan pics so what?!? I've been called a "fat c***" or an "ugly c***" (well, in my own language), both refering to my physical aspect as much as the skin colour racism refers to some people of colour.

I never made too much fuss about it and sane people shouldn't do it.

Zaha is a beautiful young man and he knows this and should be confident. The colour of a person is not important.

But there is too much hypocrisy in western media regarding racism. Why not do the same against all sorts of discrimination?? When someone gets called fat or ugly or stupid or too skinny in an insulting way, often by hateful colleagues or other children, the psychological effects are probably greater than when insulted about race.

It's an insult, it's bad, the kid shouldn't do it. But to ask for him to be permanently banned is childish. People insult all the time for physical reasons or stuff other people can't change (because we were born like this or God made us like this).

I just feel like there is an agenda cause racism is regarded as the worst of the worst insult. It's not. There are many other worse. And yeah,I've also suffered racist abuse too, colored people made fun of me for being white. It wasn't ok.
I do not condone any type of racism. Sorry if I offended anyone, just my 2 cents,but things have gone really wrong in the western media in the last 10 years.

Edited by mattteo (12 Jul 2020 9.22pm)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Jul 20 9.38pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


That's not even a threat, lol. It's a child's play. And if he sent Klu Klux Klan pics so what?!? I've been called a "fat c***" or an "ugly c***" (well, in my own language), both refering to my physical aspect as much as the skin colour racism refers to some people of colour.

I never made too much fuss about it and sane people shouldn't do it.

Zaha is a beautiful young man and he knows this and should be confident. The colour of a person is not important.

But there is too much hypocrisy in western media regarding racism. Why not do the same against all sorts of discrimination?? When someone gets called fat or ugly or stupid or too skinny in an insulting way, often by hateful colleagues or other children, the psychological effects are probably greater than when insulted about race.

It's an insult, it's bad, the kid shouldn't do it. But to ask for him to be permanently banned is childish. People insult all the time for physical reasons or stuff other people can't change (because we were born like this or God made us like this).

I just feel like there is an agenda cause racism is regarded as the worst of the worst insult. It's not. There are many other worse. And yeah,I've also suffered racist abuse too, colored people made fun of me for being white. It wasn't ok.
I do not condone any type of racism. Sorry if I offended anyone, just my 2 cents,but things have gone really wrong in the western media in the last 10 years.

Edited by mattteo (12 Jul 2020 9.22pm)

For once Mattteo I am not going to disagree with you. Being vertically and folliclely challenged I have also endured name calling, at times it was funny but other times hurtful, is this so different?

 

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Surely we should be awarded the points as Wilf and the team would have been traumatised by the fascist blitzkrieg unleashed by a twelve-year-old boy. Sakho certainly played like he had a chip on his shoulder.

Edited by georgenorman (12 Jul 2020 9.44pm)

 

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jeeagles Flag 12 Jul 20 11.06pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

For once Mattteo I am not going to disagree with you. Being vertically and folliclely challenged I have also endured name calling, at times it was funny but other times hurtful, is this so different?

It did say a series of messages, and we have seen two. So it's possible there are more.

No name calling is really on. Even saying Woy, but sometimes people do it.

One of the big differences here is that due to all the rising far right extremism, and the kid sating he was going to turn up at his out it havd to be investigated. Police would have had to track down his IP and home address to go round. Only to find it's a 12 year old when they got there.

The kid has wasted polices time when they could have been investigating something more important. Perhaps turning up at his house will be enough to scare the life out of him. But cut his hands off just in case. That will also help with Coronavirus.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Jul 20 11.17pm


At the end of the day when comments like black c*** and the like are directed at someone along with klan imagery and reference to a persons home it extends beyond the insult norm. Who is to know whether it's some nutter who's going to escalate things or a misguided kid looking for attention. It becomes inevitable that it's going to be investigated. He looked for attention, he got attention. Hopefully he'll learn something from it.

I agree with jeeagles, turn up, have a word with the family and it's very unlikely he'll be targeting anyone in the same way again. If it's something he's picked up from family attitudes they should be ashamed of themselves and what it's resulted in for others and their child. If it's just an attention seeking kid though, the coverage will likely result in him adjusting his attitude and learning that you're better off treating people well than looking to attack or demean.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 Jul 20 11.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The BLM events and increasing left wing media anti white narratives have definitely increased interest within dissident right circles.

As for the 'far right'? Who gets to decide who they are exactly?

Perhaps when groups that the left and centralists like to call 'far right' are actually allowed a political party in this country where they can campaign. Only then can we will find out how popular they are or aren't.

 


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This all seems a bit beyond a 12 year old to me. Seems a bit dated.

Does the word "c**n" (as in "C**nflakes" still exist in English? I'd hope that word had been eradicated years ago.

Better to look at the parent(s) using the boy's (or girl's) account.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jul 20 1.11am

Originally posted by marklt

This all seems a bit beyond a 12 year old to me. Seems a bit dated.

Does the word "c**n" (as in "C**nflakes" still exist in English? I'd hope that word had been eradicated years ago.

Better to look at the parent(s) using the boy's (or girl's) account.

Who knows, I'm sure it's an angle they'll explore. If it turns out to be someone trying to palm it off onto their own family member or child then it sinks to even further depths in terms of how pathetic it is. I doubt it'll take long to figure out either way.

 

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