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jeeagles Flag 21 Jul 20 10.37pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

You have a boss? I thought you were the king of “management” football and life In general by the way you talk

And how is this relevant to Roy Hodgson's performance?

Instead of petty digs why not address the point? Is a manager responsible for the below par performance of his players? In you're eyes Roy gets credit for working "miracles" for achieving what Pullis, Pardew and BFS all managed to do. But doesn't take accountability for a 7 game losing streak.

Edited by jeeagles (21 Jul 2020 10.44pm)

 

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 21 Jul 20 10.46pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

And how is this relevant to Roy Hodgson's performance?

Instead of petty digs why not address the point? Is a manager responsible for the below par performance of his players? In you're eyes Roy gets credit for working "miracles" for achieving what Pullis, Pardew and BFS all managed to do. But doesn't take accountability for a 7 game losing streak.

Edited by jeeagles (21 Jul 2020 10.44pm)

No your getting on wrong, I look at the bigger picture other than your perspective of sack him and put you in charge

 


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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 21 Jul 20 10.47pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

And how is this relevant to Roy Hodgson's performance?

Instead of petty digs why not address the point? Is a manager responsible for the below par performance of his players? In you're eyes Roy gets credit for working "miracles" for achieving what Pullis, Pardew and BFS all managed to do. But doesn't take accountability for a 7 game losing streak.

Edited by jeeagles (21 Jul 2020 10.44pm)

Sam was accountable for our worst ever performance btw 0-4 against Sunderland , Roy is accountable of our best 2-3 against city

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 21 Jul 20 10.48pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

And how is this relevant to Roy Hodgson's performance?

Instead of petty digs why not address the point? Is a manager responsible for the below par performance of his players? In you're eyes Roy gets credit for working "miracles" for achieving what Pullis, Pardew and BFS all managed to do. But doesn't take accountability for a 7 game losing streak.

Edited by jeeagles (21 Jul 2020 10.44pm)

If you want to get petty

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

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jeeagles Flag 21 Jul 20 11.04pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

Sam was accountable for our worst ever performance btw 0-4 against Sunderland , Roy is accountable of our best 2-3 against city

I see. Picking out individual results from years ago is looking at the bigger picture.

7 defeats in a row is irrelevant. 15 points since Christmas.

That Man City game was a total fluke in a lot of regards. We had 3 shots on target, one once-in-a-lifetime worldy and one penalty.

Back to the point though.

Do you think managers should be responsible for your players poor performance?

I hardly see how I'm claiming to be a management expert. All I'm saying is that I would expect a big part of their job would be to manage the performance of their staff.

I bet you fail to answer the question yet again.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 21 Jul 20 11.12pm

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

Totally agree. Roy is here to steady the ship and that’s why we can’t sack him. All the managers before him have had money thrown at them and that nearly got us relegated, left us with huge debts And hanging on to our premier league status by a thread. Our team wasn’t very good last season and then the board sell our player of the season and dont replace him.

You give Roy a Michy Batshuayi or a RLC and we play some good stuff. However, we have replaced these players with Jordan Ayew and Max Mayer.

We are (by some miracle) 1pt worse off vs last season. The man is working miracles. I read somewhere that since Roy has been in charge our net spend is +35million. What manager out there will do a better job with that budget?

I agree, the football is not easy on the eye. But if your remit by the board is to keep the club in the league. You can’t buy any players and we are going to sell your best player last season, I am
not sure what more we can expect.

Indeedy!

 

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 21 Jul 20 11.28pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I see. Picking out individual results from years ago is looking at the bigger picture.

7 defeats in a row is irrelevant. 15 points since Christmas.

That Man City game was a total fluke in a lot of regards. We had 3 shots on target, one once-in-a-lifetime worldy and one penalty.

Back to the point though.

Do you think managers should be responsible for your players poor performance?

I hardly see how I'm claiming to be a management expert. All I'm saying is that I would expect a big part of their job would be to manage the performance of their staff.

I bet you fail to answer the question yet again.

Yes however OUR TEAM is struggling with confidence, fitness (because of age and games in quick succession) lack of funds, and also a sense of (we have done our job).get behind our club and support regardless because times will get worse , they always do with a club like ours it’s a roller coaster , either your on board , or you get off quickly , I’m on board and I enjoy it , up to the person really , if I was you jee I would enjoy it instead of argueing with people on here , unless you enjoy that ??

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 21 Jul 20 11.31pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

Yes however OUR TEAM is struggling with confidence, fitness (because of age and games in quick succession) lack of funds, and also a sense of (we have done our job).get behind our club and support regardless because times will get worse , they always do with a club like ours it’s a roller coaster , either your on board , or you get off quickly , I’m on board and I enjoy it , up to the person really , if I was you jee I would enjoy it instead of argueing with people on here , unless you enjoy that ??

Don’t get me wrong , I’ve had a few beers , but reading that again I think that should be awarded post of the year?

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 21 Jul 20 11.36pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I see. Picking out individual results from years ago is looking at the bigger picture.

7 defeats in a row is irrelevant. 15 points since Christmas.

That Man City game was a total fluke in a lot of regards. We had 3 shots on target, one once-in-a-lifetime worldy and one penalty.

Back to the point though.

Do you think managers should be responsible for your players poor performance?

I hardly see how I'm claiming to be a management expert. All I'm saying is that I would expect a big part of their job would be to manage the performance of their staff.

I bet you fail to answer the question yet again.

I didn’t read that properly , that’s annoyed me, that is a typical armchair fan suggestion

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

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View coulsdoneagle's Profile coulsdoneagle Flag London 21 Jul 20 11.37pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Totally agree OP. Roy played exciting football at Fulham because he was allowed to build a squad he wanted and was backed by the owners.

Our style comes from pragmatism. He was given the brief of getting us 40 points with this ageing squad with next to no attacking options and he managed it.

 

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jeeagles Flag 21 Jul 20 11.45pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

I didn’t read that properly , that’s annoyed me, that is a typical armchair fan suggestion

Fair enough, the next 4 words after the ones you highlighted were key.

That result took a mammoth effort from the team, but you also need a lot of luck to win games like that.

Someone once told me that footballs appeal is helped by the fact that it’s one of the only sports where a team can totally outplayed the opposition and still lose.

Hope you are enjoying your beers.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 21 Jul 20 11.47pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

Don’t get me wrong , I’ve had a few beers , but reading that again I think that should be awarded post of the year?

Confidence is everything in professional sport.

The confidence of a given player generally sits with the manager.

Managers choose systems and can build players up if they can deploy them into a system which benefits them.

To see the exact opposite of that circumstance, please see Benteke, Christian. How about we play one of the best aerial attackers in the league and never get the crosses in.

Roy is a poor, poor man manager. He picks favorites instead of on form. His ability to integrate new players into the squad is very poor. I guess Sorloth wasn’t so s*** after all, but giving him 10 mins here and there and some cup games was never going to let him settle.

Did Max Meyer turn s*** overnight?

If confidence is down, broadly speaking it’s on Roy.

 


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