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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Jul 20 4.19pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

In what circumstances can VAR invoke a legal challenge?

Bournemouth considering it apparently, a recent shocker of an evening which ended with the VAR people admitting their errors had affected 3 PL results, I think this was Villa v Sheff Utd.

Their equipment was faulty (apparently) which should be their responsibility.


 

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View CPFC1965's Profile CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 28 Jul 20 4.25pm Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

Sour grapes from Bournemouth.

 

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View Superhorns3's Profile Superhorns3 Flag Harpdenden 28 Jul 20 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Superhorns3 Add Superhorns3 as a friend

I don't think they can win..

Other teams could say but if this and that happened we would have done this.

Also who knows if Villa would have lost that game.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Jul 20 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

It won't happen it's no different to a referee making a blunder unless you can prove intent it's just bad luck.

 


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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 28 Jul 20 6.36pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

It won't happen it's no different to a referee making a blunder unless you can prove intent it's just bad luck.

Exactly. If it does happen then I want us to go after Clattenburg for cheating us out of the cup in 2016.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 28 Jul 20 7.18pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Should have been challenged at the time. No chance of winning because no-one can say that Villa wouldn’t have won. If Sheff Utd aren’t challenging it... no chance

 

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Originally posted by martin2412

Exactly. If it does happen then I want us to go after Clattenburg for cheating us out of the cup in 2016.

Exactly he has admitted his errors but still laughs at his record when reffing Palace games

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 28 Jul 20 8.53pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

It's not VAR they are trying to blame.
It's the Hawkeye thing as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line.
That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Online Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Jul 20 10.06pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

It's not VAR they are trying to blame.
It's the Hawkeye thing
as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line.
That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again.


Correct. The problem is no-one knows how the game would have finished if the goal had been awarded. The game would have restarted from the centre spot, instead of carrying on and would have followed a different course. IMHO Bournemouth will be wasting money by taking legal action on this one.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Jul 20 7.05am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Correct. The problem is no-one knows how the game would have finished if the goal had been awarded. The game would have restarted from the centre spot, instead of carrying on and would have followed a different course. IMHO Bournemouth will be wasting money by taking legal action on this one.

Agreed

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Jul 20 7.47am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

It's not VAR they are trying to blame.
It's the Hawkeye thing as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line.
That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again.

According to Hawkeye they had 7 cameras and by bad luck and for the first ever a player was blocking the view from each of them hence the technology failure.

In human terms it is no different to the referee and linesman saying they didn't spot something because their view was obstructed. I believe the rules allow for mistakes to be made it's only if you can show that the referee was bribed or the technology sabotaged that you would have a case.

Regarding the specific incident the solution lies with more technology in this case VAR. The VAR camera's clearly showed what happened so the VAR officials should have used their common-sense and alerted the referee that something was wrong and to go look at the monitor. Hopefully they have now been instructed to intervene which after all is the point of VAR a clear and obvious error.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Jul 20 9.21am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

There were 2 other VAR failures that night.

And that is the whole point, we have given VAR 2 years to get it right but it doesn't, causing more hold-ups more controversy and still making wrong decisions, in which case what is the point.

In fact our PL football is becoming a lottery, there is no point in attending matches if it is decided remotely.

I wanted it to succeed after seeing the success of DRS in cricket, but they are chalk and cheese.

One benefit for those relegated is that they can play football once again without it.

The more changes and allowances you make for VAR, the worse it becomes.



 

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