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Could well be. Not very nice for the club or the player. Might possibly backfire if he gets p...d off with being left in limbo, or leaves another club an opportunity to come in and snaffle a good player. Personally I would prefer the club to come back in with a raised bid early next week maybe as you suggest and complete the deal?

The issue with going in with bid next week is that we will likely be rejected and then we will have to go in with a higher bid towards the end of the window. If we go in with our final bid with 3-4 days to go, Marcus Evans will have a decision to make. They value the player at 8m btw. He is an asset to them so they don’t want him getting injured. He is not playing this weekend and could miss 3-4 games.

Only other team that was linked was West Ham and they are trying to get the Burnley CB. I can’t see them spending on a CM for league one. This is football however and you never know.

I think we've built up a squad of senior pros now which allows us to take the risk of signing young players at as a bit of a gamble.

We couldnt have taken the risk a few seasons back as we were looking to stabilise.

4 mill and we can’t see that as a good deal ? , even if we loan him out to a good championship club (Brentford) to develop more what’s is there to lose ?

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This might possibly creep across the line, but as I understand it we might have until 16th October?

Yes, we're known for our scouting.

Do we have a scouting team who look at attack and defence separately? It would make sense given some ex-player or coaches will have a better knowledge of certain positions. We seem to have unearthed a few good defensive options, but with the exception of Scott Banks, not many attacking players.

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