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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 13 Sep 20 2.43pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Oh,now it's 29,not 20??

Why would someone from the Bundesliga not settle in the PL? They run their asses off there. I'd understand if it was about someone from Spain or Itaky, where they play a different type. At least,it's not more risky than getting a guy from the Championship.

Now don't get me wrong, I actually like Benrahma, but Rashica is at another level internationally. I thought he'd go for 40 million, so seeing Villa so close to him for as little as 16 is strange. His contract is only until 2022 so that might be the cause. And the German Budesliga sells pretty cheap compared to England.

Must be a reason hes going cheap. German team wouldn't sell him for 16m if he was worth 40m. We'll see. Better hope he does well or you'll get slaughtered

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Sep 20 3.57pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

Must be a reason hes going cheap. German team wouldn't sell him for 16m if he was worth 40m. We'll see. Better hope he does well or you'll get slaughtered

I don't think that's even a question. Of course, he depends on the team, but he'll probably get sold for A LOT in 2 years.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Sep 20 6.27pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Oh,now it's 29,not 20??

Why would someone from the Bundesliga not settle in the PL? They run their asses off there. I'd understand if it was about someone from Spain or Itaky, where they play a different type. At least,it's not more risky than getting a guy from the Championship.

Now don't get me wrong, I actually like Benrahma, but Rashica is at another level internationally. I thought he'd go for 40 million, so seeing Villa so close to him for as little as 16 is strange. His contract is only until 2022 so that might be the cause. And the German Budesliga sells pretty cheap compared to England.

There’s plenty of examples; Haller, Joelinton, Muto, Marin, Sahin, Kagawa, Mikhtariyan

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (13 Sep 2020 6.28pm)

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Sep 20 7.09pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

There’s plenty of examples; Haller, Joelinton, Muto, Marin, Sahin, Kagawa, Mikhtariyan

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (13 Sep 2020 6.28pm)

That depends on what is expected though. Marko Marin, Sshin,Kagawa, Mikhi played for Top 6 teams and maybe didn't do enough there, doesn't mean they wouldn't have been good for Palace.


Haller settled in fine according to me. Much better than Benteke. Maybe didn't set the sky alight,but he's still a good center forward. Joelinton cost way too much than he deserves, but he still plays here. Muto wasn't given gametime.

Rashica is however much better seen and with more accomplishments than Joelinton ever had in the Bundesliga. And doesn't cost half as much as the Brazilian.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Sep 20 7.18pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

That depends on what is expected though. Marko Marin, Sshin,Kagawa, Mikhi played for Top 6 teams and maybe didn't do enough there, doesn't mean they wouldn't have been good for Palace.


Haller settled in fine according to me. Much better than Benteke. Maybe didn't set the sky alight,but he's still a good center forward. Joelinton cost way too much than he deserves, but he still plays here. Muto wasn't given gametime.

Rashica is however much better seen and with more accomplishments than Joelinton ever had in the Bundesliga. And doesn't cost half as much as the Brazilian.

Sure, but it’s the case for everyone on that list that they weren’t able to reproduce their level of performance from the Bundesliga in the Prem - Haller scored less than half the goals he did the year before.

Can’t say I’ve seen enough of Rashica to comment specifically, but players coming over from the Bundesliga aren’t guaranteed to settle was my point.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Sep 20 7.33pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

There’s plenty of examples; Haller, Joelinton, Muto, Marin, Sahin, Kagawa, Mikhtariyan

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (13 Sep 2020 6.28pm)


and Meyer?

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 13 Sep 20 10.35pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sure, but it’s the case for everyone on that list that they weren’t able to reproduce their level of performance from the Bundesliga in the Prem - Haller scored less than half the goals he did the year before.

Can’t say I’ve seen enough of Rashica to comment specifically, but players coming over from the Bundesliga aren’t guaranteed to settle was my point.

It was an extremely well made point, using several examples that clearly demonstrate you are right in what you say.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Sep 20 11.47pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

It was an extremely well made point, using several examples that clearly demonstrate you are right in what you say.

No, it wasn't. You can create a viewpoint however you want. You can gather evidence to support any claim. Doesn't mean its right.

The comparison was made with a Championship player. Are there more chances that a player from the Championship won't disapoint? Is paying 20+ million for Benrahma safer than paying 16 million for one of the best prospects in Europe?

Because Marko Marin and Mikhitarian didn't play well enough for Top 6 teams?

Ok, but how many players coming from the Championship didn't make it? What's the percentage? I tell you that it's greater than that of players who came from the Bundesliga (Ballack, Klinnsmann, Sane, Leno, Rudiger etc). Some from the Championship make it, but most don't.

And even from the ones transferred from the PL itself: Was Benteke a safe bet? Worst 30 million investment ever. Oh wait, Sakho....he came from the PL too...

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 14 Sep 20 12.13am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

You made a sweeping generalisation about players from the Bundesliga which EDN exposed as being completely wrong with little or no difficulty.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 14 Sep 20 1.37am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

You made a sweeping generalisation about players from the Bundesliga which EDN exposed as being completely wrong with little or no difficulty.

"Exposed"? Ok, man...you've exposed. I literally just told you why the analysis was not good, but whatever. Have it your way. i've been exposed.

Remind me in 3-5 years where these players will be.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 14 Sep 20 8.04am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

"Exposed"? Ok, man...you've exposed. I literally just told you why the analysis was not good, but whatever. Have it your way. i've been exposed.

Remind me in 3-5 years where these players will be.

Mattteo If you post as much information as you do with the attitude that you are always right, you must accept that you will receive criticism, none of it was rude.
With regard to Haller settling better than Benteke, if you mean when they arrived in England, that is not correct Benteke was excellent at Villa and became a bit of a cult hero, Haller has basically done nothing of note

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Sep 20 8.05am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

"Exposed"? Ok, man...you've exposed. I literally just told you why the analysis was not good, but whatever. Have it your way. i've been exposed.

Remind me in 3-5 years where these players will be.


I'm sure you'll remind us Mattteo if you're right about them.

 

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