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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 26 Sep 20 11.08pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ask your Black mates or colleagues what they think. That’s what I did, it was useful.

Black mates? Hrolf?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 26 Sep 20 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Try telling that to the family of Stephen Lawrence

That was over 26 years ago.

Where is the commentary over the death of teenager Kriss Donald who was kidnapped and murdered by a pakistani gang 11 years after Lawrence?

Do you say we need a 'white lives matter' movement because of that then?

What about the many thousands of rapes of white girls by predominantly pakistani gangs done deliberately because they were 'white' and non Muslim.

Do you say we need a 'white lives matter' movement because of that?


Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2020 11.14pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Sep 20 11.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Try telling that to the family of Stephen Lawrence

Really?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Sep 20 11.16pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Black mates? Hrolf?


Do you ever have any fleeting moments of maturity?

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 26 Sep 20 11.17pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Do you ever have any fleeting moments of maturity?

I come down to your level so you can keep up with the thread - nothing personal.

 

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View IMMER PALACE's Profile IMMER PALACE Flag BIELEFELD 26 Sep 20 11.33pm Send a Private Message to IMMER PALACE Add IMMER PALACE as a friend

I don't think the taking a knee for a minute before matches has been effective enough.

Players need to take a stand, so to speak. True change will be effected by teams voluntarily deciding to play the 90 shuffling around on their knees. Only then will the world change.

Edited by IMMER PALACE (26 Sep 2020 11.33pm)

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 26 Sep 20 11.39pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That was over 26 years ago.

Where is the commentary over the death of teenager Kriss Donald who was kidnapped and murdered by a pakistani gang 11 years after Lawrence?

Do you say we need a 'white lives matter' movement because of that then?

What about the many thousands of rapes of white girls by predominantly pakistani gangs done deliberately because they were 'white' and non Muslim.

Do you say we need a 'white lives matter' movement because of that?


Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2020 11.14pm)

I'm presuming that the cases you cite obtained convictions. I don't know if they resulted in Public Enquiries where the findings spoke of 'institutional racism' within the Police force.

No doubt 26 years ago some people would have been bleating about it all being a storm in a teacup, with nowt to worry about;just the moaning of 'extremists'.

i know some things never change but I live in hope.

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 26 Sep 20 11.41pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by IMMER PALACE

I don't think the taking a knee for a minute before matches has been effective enough.

Players need to take a stand, so to speak. True change will be effected by teams voluntarily deciding to play the 90 shuffling around on their knees. Only then will the world change.

Edited by IMMER PALACE (26 Sep 2020 11.33pm)

Ha ha. That made me chuckle.

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 27 Sep 20 12.14am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Sadly, another thread has wandered. Real respect has been shown to Sgt Matt by those whose lives he touched. I assume that all those who we get to know do matter - there is a need for people to open themselves to others and think for themselves.

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 27 Sep 20 12.46am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by HeathMan

Sadly, another thread has wandered. Real respect has been shown to Sgt Matt by those whose lives he touched. I assume that all those who we get to know do matter - there is a need for people to open themselves to others and think for themselves.

Yup, my apologies. I Felt loathe to let a post go unchallenged.

All our thoughts are with those who have suffered a terrible loss. A local copper, entirely appropriate.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Sep 20 5.43am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

I'm presuming that the cases you cite obtained convictions. I don't know if they resulted in Public Enquiries where the findings spoke of 'institutional racism' within the Police force.

No doubt 26 years ago some people would have been bleating about it all being a storm in a teacup, with nowt to worry about;just the moaning of 'extremists'.

i know some things never change but I live in hope.

Institutional means it was sanctioned by the top.
This particular description was wrong at the time and wrong now. Knee jerk statement to pacify a certain group of people and now used in any discussion to justify certain actions. There are bad everywhere,all colours,all religions,all people. It's called being a human.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Sep 20 7.57am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

The first link is a report by Breitbart, A far right website, that reported an interview with one of the founders of BLM, Patrice Cullors on another website. Breitbart take their particular slant on the whole interview, focussing on her formative years on the political scene. The original interview is a haunting recollection of her growing up amongst the black and Latino community and how it shaped her resistance to racial discrimination. So, the link is to a New York Post piece about a Breitbart piece about the original interview. Not exactly ‘horses mouth’ but two steps removed from an original interview, the main points of which they chose to omit. Mm… I would recommend anyone who’s interested (not many, I’ll wager lol) to read the original interview.

Your second link is from the American conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation. with strong Trump leanings and diametrically opposed to BLM, who they see as threatening ‘traditional’ American values.

Both links express right-wing interpretations, slants on BLM,. They are opinion, not fact.

If you consider these to be ‘the horse’s mouth’ then that is a mistake.

Surprised legal action wasn’t taken then. Presumably any media supporting BLM are truthful in their articles? No point in asking for links if no media outlet can be believed

 

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