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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 22 Oct 20 3.37pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Sakho?
Are you serious? He GIFTED Chelsea 2 goals. Roy was quick to drop him once Cahill was fit for the last game and was happy to keep Kouyate as one of the CB pairing.

With Cahill back we were even MORE defensive against Brighton than in any of the previous games.

Our last two games have seen us play anti-football NOT defensive football.

Furthermore, last season when we had both Cahill and Tomkins paired at the back, Roy still played 2 or even 3 defensive midfielders in front of them.

Sorry, but I don't find your argument has any merit.

Ah, it's not just me then. I think Cahill is one of the reasons we are so defensive - he's so slow he has to sit deep, thus dragging the rest of the team back with him. Not particularly good at coming out with the ball or passing, and because of the lack of pace easy to close down.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 22 Oct 20 4.06pm Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Really curious about team selection on Craven Cottage. Would like to see Eze and Riedewald playing from start, keep Batman hovering around and inside their box. No ultra-defensive set-up once again, please. Another performance like the two previous ones and the manager will be gone by next week!

 

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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 22 Oct 20 6.26pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

dont agree with he will be gone if we lose, with all the real world stuff going on, i think our owners will be pragmatic, stay up again, wait till next season then see

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Oct 20 6.48pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

dont agree with he will be gone if we lose, with all the real world stuff going on, i think our owners will be pragmatic, stay up again, wait till next season then see

I would suspect that the manager's position hasn't come into any consideration whatsoever and as far as I am concerned it is highly chimerical and ludicrous to believe that he will be removed from his position should we lose against Fulham.

Hodsgon has been entrusted with an extended contract, the season is in his infancy we haven't lost all games and getting cut adrift from the pack.

I re-iterate, Hodgson will be with us for the foreseeable future.Should we secure survival and he wishes to continue for another season,there is every chance his contract will be extended yet again.I stress this is a personal view and not something I have heard !!

 

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Originally posted by Willo

I would suspect that the manager's position hasn't come into any consideration whatsoever and as far as I am concerned it is highly chimerical and ludicrous to believe that he will be removed from his position should we lose against Fulham.

Hodsgon has been entrusted with an extended contract, the season is in his infancy we haven't lost all games and getting cut adrift from the pack.

I re-iterate, Hodgson will be with us for the foreseeable future.Should we secure survival and he wishes to continue for another season,there is every chance his contract will be extended yet again.I stress this is a personal view and not something I have heard !!

Not entirely true Willo. Don't forget that football is a fickle game, particularly for managers. I suspect the odd question was raised at our performances at the end of last season. A continuation, a bad run now, and all bets are off. Plus it was clear we were looking at Dyche. I don't see any reason we were except that we know Roy will go sooner or later.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 22 Oct 20 7.27pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

On the basis that Hodgson won’t change his approach ( he could justifiably argue why should he?) I would like to see what another manager could get out of this group of players.
I am realistic enough to realise this is unlikely to happen unless the results are terrible and a replacement is available.
There were unsubstantiated rumours that the club were unhappy with him during that terrible run at the end of the season, but this would be the same with the majority of managers on such a losing run.
He does seem out of kilter in how he operates with the aspirational Parish and doesn’t seem convinced by Freedman’s scouting other than when he knows the players recruited.
I think they will all continue to rub along unless a crisis appears imminent.

 

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View Joseph Paxton's Profile Joseph Paxton Flag Lancing 22 Oct 20 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Joseph Paxton Add Joseph Paxton as a friend

So, Cahill comes back from being sidelined for 4 months with a hamstring injury to play alongside a player he has never partnered in a competitive match before and you think playing defensively with defensive mids covering for them was the wrong tactic and we should have been playing for box to box offence and all out domination - against our greatest rivals?

Maybe playing FIFA mate but the realpolitik ain't so.

Originally posted by doombear


Sakho?
Are you serious? He GIFTED Chelsea 2 goals. Roy was quick to drop him once Cahill was fit for the last game and was happy to keep Kouyate as one of the CB pairing.

With Cahill back we were even MORE defensive against Brighton than in any of the previous games.

Our last two games have seen us play anti-football NOT defensive football.

Furthermore, last season when we had both Cahill and Tomkins paired at the back, Roy still played 2 or even 3 defensive midfielders in front of them.

Sorry, but I don't find your argument has any merit.

 


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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 22 Oct 20 11.27pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I would suspect that the manager's position hasn't come into any consideration whatsoever and as far as I am concerned it is highly chimerical and ludicrous to believe that he will be removed from his position should we lose against Fulham.

Hodsgon has been entrusted with an extended contract, the season is in his infancy we haven't lost all games and getting cut adrift from the pack.

I re-iterate, Hodgson will be with us for the foreseeable future.Should we secure survival and he wishes to continue for another season,there is every chance his contract will be extended yet again.I stress this is a personal view and not something I have heard !!

Totally agree. During these uncertain times Roy’s number one objective is to keep us in the league. That’s it.

If he does that then I reckon an offer of another year will be on the table.

We tried playing passing football for 3 games. Didn’t work. Do you remember that 0-3 home defeat by world beaters, Huddersfield. Roy had to come in and save us.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 23 Oct 20 3.31am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

Totally agree. During these uncertain times Roy’s number one objective is to keep us in the league. That’s it.

If he does that then I reckon an offer of another year will be on the table.

We tried playing passing football for 3 games. Didn’t work. Do you remember that 0-3 home defeat by world beaters, Huddersfield. Roy had to come in and save us.

And if we had scored one of our chances at burnley fdb may still be here and we may be playing a different style. If your aunt and all that.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Online Flag CR3 23 Oct 20 8.13am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

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Lol, this guy is either a member of this board or he definitely reads it.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Oct 20 8.15am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

And if we had scored one of our chances at burnley fdb may still be here and we may be playing a different style. If your aunt and all that.

I go back to what I have already posted (I am sounding like Graeme Souness!), managers are not removed of their duties after 4 games purely on results.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 23 Oct 20 8.18am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

On the basis that Hodgson won’t change his approach ( he could justifiably argue why should he?) I would like to see what another manager could get out of this group of players.
I am realistic enough to realise this is unlikely to happen unless the results are terrible and a replacement is available.
There were unsubstantiated rumours that the club were unhappy with him during that terrible run at the end of the season, but this would be the same with the majority of managers on such a losing run.
He does seem out of kilter in how he operates with the aspirational Parish and doesn’t seem convinced by Freedman’s scouting other than when he knows the players recruited.
I think they will all continue to rub along unless a crisis appears imminent.

Very true and at the end of the day points are all that matters to the board. After 5 games gone we are sitting on the same points as Leeds and have more than Brighton. So Roy can argue his case very simply if asked to justify why he doesn’t play like Bielsa or Potter.

 

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