Yes good post .Its not entirely Roy's fault I agree .The fact is we are suffering from lack of involvement over the last 10 years or so Most clubs in premiership even championship have already got decent grounds and academy set up,so a more money can be spent on the playing side .We are definitely punching above our weight in the premiership and by keeping Wilf and the odd bit of luck have managed to survive. But its come to a head now and its not even a question of tinkering here and there .Any new manager will have to rebuild from nearly scratch.Most players in premiership are comfortable on the ball and athletic we currently are not.Big job ahead and a lot of pressure for new manager before he even starts.

I completely agree with you fed up with people constantly making excuses & blaming it on the players ages amongst other things.

Roy has to take the blame never changes a formation when one clearly is not working, never plays a system that suits the players at his disposal constantly plays players out of position.

Plays negative tactics,

Plays 2 strikers but refuses to put crosses into the box or provide any sort of service.

Look at Burnley first 10 minutes put 3 crosses into the box & scored 2 goals.

Sorry but the buck has to stop with Roy 4 wins in 20 just not good enough.

The buck always stops with the manager, he is the one responsible. Fair enough. What would FdB say I wonder watching this shower of s***? Brought in to change the playing style yet sacked after 4 games whilst not having the players to make the change in style? The buck always stops with the manager.

I think you’ll find Klopp has a Premier League and Champions League title behind him as well as a brilliant spell at Dortmund.
Perhaps not the best example to compare to Hodgson who failed miserably with Liverpool.
Clearly there can be no meeting of the minds between the pro and anti Hodgson brigades.
The pro brigade will continue to find every excuse for him under the sun.
I actually don’t think the squad is that bad, and would love to see what a Brendan Rodgers type coach would do with them.
He would surely as a minimum put players in their correct positions and try to utilise the strengths of the existing players rather than shoehorn them in outdated tactical systems that are continually found wanting.

I think you’ll find Klopp has a Premier League and Champions League title behind him as well as a brilliant spell at Dortmund.
Perhaps not the best example to compare to Hodgson who failed miserably with Liverpool.
Clearly there can be no meeting of the minds between the pro and anti Hodgson brigades.
The pro brigade will continue to find every excuse for him under the sun.
I actually don’t think the squad is that bad, and would love to see what a Brendan Rodgers type coach would do with them.
He would surely as a minimum put players in their correct positions and try to utilise the strengths of the existing players rather than shoehorn them in outdated tactical systems that are continually found wanting.