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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Mar 21 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was anticipating this response and feel it rather proves my point

I believe I have made some valid points but we see matters differently and of course others might also share your view.
HOL would be a poorer place if we all agreed with one another in one gargantuan 'Love-In' !


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Originally posted by EddieMac

And don’t forget the mighty Graham Potter and 1 point behind the genius that is Bielsa.

From a comparative analysis view, the point thats being raised is can those other managers get more out of OUR squad than Roy? What they are getting out of their squads compared to what Roy is getting out of our squad is not a valid comparison

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Mar 21 7.22am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill


We are stuck in a rut with Hodgson playing only one (defensive) way using his favourite players (who he once could rely on but now cannot) and seemingly has no alternative strategy and certainly is very reluctant to blood younger players unless he has to.

Which younger players are you referring to as those that know a great deal more about our development and age related squads say that there is no-one ready for the first team.

Those out on loan who people here are crying out to be promoted to the first team are hardly tearing up trees in their lower league clubs

 

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 10 Mar 21 8.43am Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Speculation is rife ..

But the basic fact is:

We are stuck in a rut with Hodgson playing only one (defensive) way using his favourite players (who he once could rely on but now cannot)
and seemingly has no alternative strategy and certainly is very reluctant to blood younger players unless he has to.

That is why so many have contributed to this thread.

Well, Roy was hired 3 & a half years ago & he's the only manager in the 8 years since we were promoted who has brought through a single academy prospect into Premier League football. 3 players he's given debuts to, to be precise & 2 to great success.

So it's the opposite of a basic fact really.

I take the point that he's been largely reluctant to, but I'd be interested to see how many managers in the Premier League have brought through more academy prospects in that period of time. Especially managers at clubs outside the top 6.

 


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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 10 Mar 21 8.46am Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE

From a comparative analysis view, the point thats being raised is can those other managers get more out of OUR squad than Roy? What they are getting out of their squads compared to what Roy is getting out of our squad is not a valid comparison

It's not a valid comparison because, without Zaha, they both have younger & better squads than us - easily. And Wilf has been out for the past several games.

 


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View COCO's Profile COCO Flag aberdeen 10 Mar 21 10.42am Send a Private Message to COCO Add COCO as a friend

In Roy we trust! Saved us from relegation a few years ago and an excellent human and manager. Get a life Roy haters.

 

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View gebena's Profile gebena Flag 10 Mar 21 11.08am Send a Private Message to gebena Add gebena as a friend

I think the board have a massive decision to make, as whatever happens the squad needs a massive makeover, and if Roy sees this out it they will be younger but the same type of players so will be dreadful still to watch, but we will probably stay in the Premier League, the other option is to bring a new manager in and get his type players and make a clean sweep of it but has risks remember De Boer but i hope they keep Roy on as a consultant or in some capacity anyway.

 

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View A1969Eagle's Profile A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 10 Mar 21 11.39am Send a Private Message to A1969Eagle Add A1969Eagle as a friend

AWB forced to play him when all right back options were out injured.

Mitchell forced to play him when all left back options were out injured.

Over to you

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Well, Roy was hired 3 & a half years ago & he's the only manager in the 8 years since we were promoted who has brought through a single academy prospect into Premier League football. 3 players he's given debuts to, to be precise & 2 to great success.

So it's the opposite of a basic fact really.

I take the point that he's been largely reluctant to, but I'd be interested to see how many managers in the Premier League have brought through more academy prospects in that period of time. Especially managers at clubs outside the top 6.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 10 Mar 21 11.52am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

AWB forced to play him when all right back options were out injured.

Mitchell forced to play him when all left back options were out injured.

Over to you

How lots of young players get their chance. If they were not considered good enough then a senior player would be played out of position. Martin Kelly and Tomkins have both played full back.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Mar 21 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by COCO

In Roy we trust! Saved us from relegation a few years ago and an excellent human and manager. Get a life Roy haters.

A quality contribution to this debate


 

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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 10 Mar 21 1.04pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

Acknowledged - however, actually has more than an element of truth about it!

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 10 Mar 21 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

How lots of young players get their chance. If they were not considered good enough then a senior player would be played out of position. Martin Kelly and Tomkins have both played full back.


It would seem for some Hodgson, can not do anything right.
Keeping us in the Premier, doesn’t count, playing young players, is forced on him ,even though others had not done it for any reason. Beating more top sides ,more often than at any other time in the clubs history doesn’t matter. Only his worst moments in a long career with many commendable moments in it are to be considered.
Rachid, what’s the point , mate.?

 

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