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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Dec 20 10.34am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

In a dream world it would be an ideal time for wealthy investors to turn up and bank roll investment in the squad. It seems like half the team is out of contract in the summer so they could start laying plans for the future without being burdened with high wage earners like Sakho and Bentenke. Bring in a new manager with a plan and enough experience to implement it. Although Potter isn't getting the results at Brighton, the club itself is fully behind his ideology with teams in all age groups being encouraged to play football what they believe is "the right way".

Although I have softened my stance on Roy, a 74-year-old manager is clearly not a long-term plan. The hard part is finding a manager who would not just be looking at us as a stepping stone, but who also has a longer term vision beyond simply securing safety each season.

Brighton also have a modern stadium and state-of-the-art training facilities and in that respect they are far better placed than we are at this juncture.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 31 Dec 20 10.39am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

It was a ridiculous question to which I gave a ridiculous answer.
What I’m pretty sure of, although obviously I can’t prove it, is that Klopp would not play against Newcastle at home with Schlupp and Ayew up front with Benteke and Batshuayi on the bench.
Klopp also meticulous on set pieces and even has a dedicated throw in coach.
No visible evidence of the same attention to detail with Hodgson.
Roy’s a sound manager, but in my opinion he doesn’t get the best out of a squad which he openly acknowledges is the best he’s had at his time in the club.
Some will make excuses about an ageing squad and there is some validity to that.
But going back to Klopp he would not be selecting serial underperformers week after week.
The test for Roy now as I see it is whether he can reintroduce defensive solidity (which has gone missing) without playing ten behind the ball as he did last season.
If we go back to that way of playing I can’t see much involvement for the likes of Eze and it will make the loan of Batshuayi a pointless exercise.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 31 Dec 20 10.47am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

9 games won in 2020. 33 goals scored.

Roy ball.

Edited by MonsterMunch (31 Dec 2020 10.48am)

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 31 Dec 20 10.51am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

It was a ridiculous question to which I gave a ridiculous answer.
What I’m pretty sure of, although obviously I can’t prove it, is that Klopp would not play against Newcastle at home with Schlupp and Ayew up front with Benteke and Batshuayi on the bench.
Klopp also meticulous on set pieces and even has a dedicated throw in coach.
No visible evidence of the same attention to detail with Hodgson.
Roy’s a sound manager, but in my opinion he doesn’t get the best out of a squad which he openly acknowledges is the best he’s had at his time in the club.
Some will make excuses about an ageing squad and there is some validity to that.
But going back to Klopp he would not be selecting serial underperformers week after week.
The test for Roy now as I see it is whether he can reintroduce defensive solidity (which has gone missing) without playing ten behind the ball as he did last season.
If we go back to that way of playing I can’t see much involvement for the likes of Eze and it will make the loan of Batshuayi a pointless exercise.

Roy has had his day and may well retire at the end of this season.
One assumes that SP has potential replacements in hand including young managers like Thomas Frank in his sights,who is doing a great job at Brentford.

 

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jeeagles Flag 31 Dec 20 11.27am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

I'd like to know how they are going to guarantee any sort of profit from their huge outlay, sounds a lot like the same crowd we have now.


Edited by Tickled pink (31 Dec 2020 9.01am)

Improve the infrastructure, buy a few players, increase the value of the club, sell on the asset.

They are already in the planning stages for a stadium expansion.

In reality, it doesn't really matter to us if they make a profit or not. It just means that a club that had less resources than us, suddenly has more resources.

Edited by jeeagles (31 Dec 2020 11.27am)

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 31 Dec 20 11.35am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Trying to play more open football means that slow defenders and immobile midfield players with poor recovery have to play further up the pitch and it appears that is when we're at our most vulnerable. Our left side with PVA and Eze has also been targeted.

Zaha has thrived in a free role in a forward line of two whereas he was nullified last season playing 433 and I expect that this will have helped to prevent him becoming restless. The decision to revert to more defensive shape is not a straightforward one IMO.

 

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jeeagles Flag 31 Dec 20 11.55am

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Mate

I'm not sure how qualified I am to answer your question.

I can only recount my own experience as a player - unlike you I didn't Manage our coach at Senior/Adult level.

As a player I was reasonable - but limited in terms of ability. I was quick, could tackle and could pass - you won't be surprised to hear I was a fullback.

On that basis was encouraged just to concentrate on that - I always remember my dear old Dad when I was at junior level on the side-lines, hit him early let him know you are around..!!

That was similar to my experience at Senior level - where there was limited coaching in terms of developing you as a player more concentration on making the most of attributes you already had.

Where I can speak with more authority is development at Youth level. I was fortunate enough through my Sons to become heavily involved in the building and development of our local Football Club - where we took them from having no youth teams to having teams at every age group from U6 to U17's, at some age groups 2 teams.

We became to be the "go to" team/Club in our area - trials in close season were a nightmare..!!

The big difference that I noticed compared to my own experience as a junior was that all coaches needed to be/were qualified - unlike when I was younger it was just a Guy that liked/had played football and was prepared to give up his time to run a junior team for local kids.

There was/is far more focus on developing core skills from a very young age, so not just working on where a player has natural attributes, but pro-actively working on and developing areas of weaknesses in a player.

Prime example as much as the boys hated it, playing games where they could only use their weaker foot - at a young age this was highlighted by them having to wear different colour socks on each leg.

They were/are encouraged to pass the ball from a very young age - whereas I was encouraged just to "put my foot through it".

Result - for example my youngest son - now 22 can hit a dead ball equally well with both his right and left foot - rare as "Hens teeth"..!!

Another thing was playing with their head up - if a player played a "blind pass" - game was stopped and player asked what they were trying to do and where they were trying to pass it.

Other big thing is the introduction of 7 as side, 9 a side at younger age groups - they don't play 11 a side a side until they get to u13's.

Consequently players get more time on the ball on smaller pitches, meaning they have to be able to control the ball, pass and have more awareness of making space etc..

Upshot total difference to when I played football as a junior - I remember when I was a junior at what 9/10 years of age - pitch was huge and it was just "kick and rush".

All of this is why I get so exasperated when I see a performance like our first half performance against Leicester where we couldn't string 2 passes together - kids of 8/9 years of age are now able to do that.

I also think that the St Georges park project has has had a huge impact - IMO it's no coincidence that we are seeing at England senior level so much exciting talent and excellent players coming through now 8 years after it's inception.

So in summary and in answer to your question grass roots and youth football IMO is far more organised, facilities and coaching so much better - meaning that we are seeing so much more quality coming through. So the future looks bright.

On Youth Football, kids and the coaches are great - it's the parents that can be a nightmare..!!

COYP

If you didn't have an intention to be chairman but ended up there, that means your probably the right person for the job.

St Georges Park and 3G pitches seem to be making a huge difference.

My brothers started coaching my nephews under 8s team. He hasn't played much football but was a very high level sportman and none of the other parents wanted to do it. The FA training course was excellent. He's used his own experience to set them up well for matches and they beating teams that often have better individuals.

He uses a handful of one or two word instructions so the kids know what they should be doing, but it should be their choice rather than "PlayStation" coaching. We've gone through a couple of decades of getting very well organised teams, it seems a lot of sports people are forgetting to think for themselves, they seem to forget that they are the ones that understand their own abilities best.

The kids all seem to enjoy it which is the main thing, a lot of people seem to forget its just children playing a game.

The only issue he's had with the FA is that they won't let a doctor parent be one of the recognised first aiders as they haven't done the FA course!

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 31 Dec 20 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Improve the infrastructure, buy a few players, increase the value of the club, sell on the asset.

They are already in the planning stages for a stadium expansion.

Edited by jeeagles (31 Dec 2020 11.27am)

Sounds just like our owners plans. I cant see the difference?

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 31 Dec 20 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Painter


Sounds just like our owners plans. I cant see the difference?

Perhaps the difference is the "Sell on the asset" bit as Parish has shown no sign of wanting to sell up and take his huge profit with him

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Dec 20 12.57pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Perhaps the difference is the "Sell on the asset" bit as Parish has shown no sign of wanting to sell up and take his huge profit with him

As far as I'm aware, the club's for sale, but the interest there has been has been mainly put off by the Yanks' wanting to more than double their money. 150 mil is what I heard. Anyone have that laying around and want to buy a football team? Probably only another 100-200 mil to sort out infrastructure and playing staff.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Dec 20 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

9 games won in 2020. 33 goals scored.

Roy ball.

Edited by MonsterMunch (31 Dec 2020 10.48am)

Still, could be worse I suppose, there are 10 teams lower than us out of 92!

 

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jeeagles Flag 31 Dec 20 1.11pm

Originally posted by Painter

Sounds just like our owners plans. I cant see the difference?

In terms of resources, they are possibly the only club out performing us at the moment. The strategy is pretty much the same, they're manager is getting more out of his players.

 

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