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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 28 Jan 21 7.48am Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Odds on Lampard taking over have now dropped to 9/2.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 28 Jan 21 7.49am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

I just do not get it, that a manager experienced as Roy, does not see that his system is not working?
Wish someone powerful could inform him.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 28 Jan 21 8.20am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

I just do not get it, that a manager experienced as Roy, does not see that his system is not working?
Wish someone powerful could inform him.

This is exactly my problem with him and I really can’t get my head around it. Why in the name of Christ is he sticking with this 4-4-2 nonsense when it doesn’t suit the players he has. If he lines the team out against Wolves in the same set up then I will be for the first time in his tenure wishing he gets sacked before the season ends.

He has got to know that it is not working but is it because Wilf is happier up front that he won’t change it. At Roy’s age and with his experience I find it hard to believe that he is buckling to player pressure and playing Wilf up front because he is told to.

There is only 1 system that this squad of capable of playing and that is back to 3 centre midfield players. It may have been boring when we played that but we didn’t concede goals.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Jan 21 8.31am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

If you look at the recent run of games, I think it would be unfair to sack Hodgson on the back of defeats to in form Citeh and West Ham. However, had those games been swapped around with the Burnley and Newcastle matches, it would be a different story.

Ultimately , the old cliche of it being a results business comes to the fore. At present they are just not good enough. Then you look at the Manager and consider if he is the right person to turn things around.

It would be interesting to know what is going through Steve Parish's mind at the moment.

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 28 Jan 21 8.41am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

What position does Roy Hodgson have to take us to before he is asked to walk by Mr Parish?
Some stats, which Alan Pardew might wryly smile about:

Pardew: Played 87, Won 35, Drawn 13, Lost 39 - Win percentage 40.23

Hodgson: Played 144, Won 48, Drawn 34, Lost 62 - Win percentage 33.33

I appreciate that if Parish would have not renewed Hodgson's contract last time round then Hodgson's stats would look slightly better, however what does he have to do to get his marching orders?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Jan 21 8.44am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

I dont think it matters who the manager is. Benteke can't be bothered plain and simple...

Does anyone else remember Alan Shearer a couple of seasons ago singling out Benteke on MOTD about how he hides behind defenders when crosses are put into the box??
He's been doing it for a while now. He literally makes no effort to get in front of defenders or bust a gut to get on the end of a cross.


That's how I see it. The only time he does anything in the box is when the ball either accidently (or occasionally by design) ends up at his feet or on his head. Can't recall him making a run onto a ball to score.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 28 Jan 21 9.23am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


That's how I see it. The only time he does anything in the box is when the ball either accidently (or occasionally by design) ends up at his feet or on his head. Can't recall him making a run onto a ball to score.

I agree, his appetite to score, motivation, drive whateve you call it is just not there. His movement is non-existent. Against West Ham, Karen Carney called him out for it in the first half when Eze crossed the ball into an open area of space, and theres Benteke just jogging in, making now attempt to burst into the open space. You can tell hes just accepted his role now. Theres no accountability from Roy. Roy just keeps playing him. That failing is as much on Roy as it is on Benteke. He has others he could use.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jan 21 9.29am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

I agree, his appetite to score, motivation, drive whateve you call it is just not there. His movement is non-existent. Against West Ham, Karen Carney called him out for it in the first half when Eze crossed the ball into an open area of space, and theres Benteke just jogging in, making now attempt to burst into the open space. You can tell hes just accepted his role now. Theres no accountability from Roy. Roy just keeps playing him. That failing is as much on Roy as it is on Benteke. He has others he could use.

Mr Hodgson favours that focal point, target man striker and he has said that Benteke is important to the way the team plays.
I suspect, Mr Hodgson would be delighted if Andy Carroll was acquired this 'Window'.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 28 Jan 21 9.57am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Mr Hodgson favours that focal point, target man striker and he has said that Benteke is important to the way the team plays.
I suspect, Mr Hodgson would be delighted if Andy Carroll was acquired this 'Window'.

I understand that Willo. Sometimes when things arent working you have to adapt and change. Try something new!

Why is he expecting a different outcome from Benteke? Answer is he's not/ He's happy to persevere with the same thing week in week out. Why not try and different system, tactics to incorporate his other options. Sorry but Hodgson is getting away with murder with some of our apologist fans (not directed to you!).

I hope for Roys lasting memory he can see out the rest of his season so we can look back fondly on him before we take a new path with a new Manager.

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 28 Jan 21 10.00am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Chris Wilder not for raising the white flag and will continue to fight for every point after last night's sensational result at Man U.
Our man has lost the plot and has to go.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jan 21 10.08am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

I understand that Willo. Sometimes when things arent working you have to adapt and change. Try something new!

Why is he expecting a different outcome from Benteke? Answer is he's not/ He's happy to persevere with the same thing week in week out. Why not try and different system, tactics to incorporate his other options. Sorry but Hodgson is getting away with murder with some of our apologist fans (not directed to you!).

I hope for Roys lasting memory he can see out the rest of his season so we can look back fondly on him before we take a new path with a new Manager.

I might be somewhat 'Off the mark' but I believe that the consensus of 'Roy In' faction is that he is having to work with an old squad, lacking in vigour,pace and energy and that the turgid football is a direct result of this fact.
They also see an experienced manager who despite hardly any outlay in the 'Transfer Window' has kept us in the PL and will do so yet again.

 

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View Monty the Eagle's Profile Monty the Eagle Flag Lima 28 Jan 21 11.06am Send a Private Message to Monty the Eagle Add Monty the Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

What position does Roy Hodgson have to take us to before he is asked to walk by Mr Parish?
Some stats, which Alan Pardew might wryly smile about:

Pardew: Played 87, Won 35, Drawn 13, Lost 39 - Win percentage 40.23

Hodgson: Played 144, Won 48, Drawn 34, Lost 62 - Win percentage 33.33

I appreciate that if Parish would have not renewed Hodgson's contract last time round then Hodgson's stats would look slightly better, however what does he have to do to get his marching orders?

Firstly, I should highlight that sadly now I think it is time for him to go. The football is terrible and he seems incapable of change.

However, the issue with the stats you quoted is that for management he is averaging more than a point a game and therefore continues to be a safe investment.

 

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