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Casual Orpington 23 Oct 20 11.01pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid I don't care for the way he's gone about things either but that shouldn't detract from what he's done. All of the players you mentioned have done great things but not over the period of time Zaha has. Armstrong let us down badly IIRC. You think so ?? Games per goals/assists.?? Performances per Łs ?? Don’t think so.
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Orpington 23 Oct 20 11.01pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I don't care for the way he's gone about things either but that shouldn't detract from what he's done.

All of the players you mentioned have done great things but not over the period of time Zaha has. Armstrong let us down badly IIRC.

You think so ?? Games per goals/assists.?? Performances per Łs ??
Don’t think so.

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Eaglehamster Storrington 23 Oct 20 11.03pm
Originally posted by redshift Only my opinion but I don't think Wilf has much of a sale value now. I don't think he's going anywhere in the future, given his age and transfer value. There are better deals out there for teams. Thing is too that Wilf wants to go to a team that has a chance of hoisting silverware over their heads. I don't believe those teams need what he has to offer, in general. So, I think Wilf in the end will have to content himself with being a Palace icon only. It's sad, but it happens. Yeah it's sad. He could have made a bigger impact in a great team. But hey, Ł6.5 million PA must soften the blow just a bit? I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.
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Storrington 23 Oct 20 11.03pm

Originally posted by redshift

Only my opinion but I don't think Wilf has much of a sale value now. I don't think he's going anywhere in the future, given his age and transfer value. There are better deals out there for teams.
Thing is too that Wilf wants to go to a team that has a chance of hoisting silverware over their heads. I don't believe those teams need what he has to offer, in general.
So, I think Wilf in the end will have to content himself with being a Palace icon only. It's sad, but it happens.

Yeah it's sad. He could have made a bigger impact in a great team. But hey, Ł6.5 million PA must soften the blow just a bit?

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 23 Oct 20 11.20pm
Originally posted by Casual You think so ?? Games per goals/assists.?? Performances per Łs ?? Don’t think so. Yes I do think. Wright, Sansom and Lombardo you could consider but mainly based upon what they achieved elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Casual

You think so ?? Games per goals/assists.?? Performances per Łs ??
Don’t think so.

Yes I do think. Wright, Sansom and Lombardo you could consider but mainly based upon what they achieved elsewhere.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 23 Oct 20 11.34pm
Originally posted by Casual Ok. What champions league team do you think? , interested. I think he would transform Leipzig, actually. Add magic to an otherwise high- level functional game. Inter. He'd lift them too. Point is, has he got the requisite mental strength to find a way to shine game in, game out? If he did, it would be an easy choice for teams that need something magical and different. I actually am skeptical he does. So I'm probably more in your camp than that of an avid believer. But if he can just pull his s*** together, maybe. But I truly believe it's now or never. Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (23 Oct 2020 11.36pm) If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Originally posted by Casual

Ok. What champions league team do you think? , interested.

I think he would transform Leipzig, actually. Add magic to an otherwise high- level functional game. Inter. He'd lift them too.

Point is, has he got the requisite mental strength to find a way to shine game in, game out? If he did, it would be an easy choice for teams that need something magical and different.

I actually am skeptical he does. So I'm probably more in your camp than that of an avid believer. But if he can just pull his s*** together, maybe.

But I truly believe it's now or never.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (23 Oct 2020 11.36pm)

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 24 Oct 20 7.23am
what ever you think about wilf...enjoy watching the best player to ever be produced by the club, as he continues to help us to play above our level, whilst he is still with us. as trust me if you think wilf is frustrating, you just wait til we have wingers like mark kennedy & paul ifil again...then you may really appreciate what we currently have. it really grinds my gears, that a section of our fanbase have forgotten where we have come from, and what type of club we historically have been, and all they do is bitch & whine about every little detail of the club we love so much like spoilt kids. just appreciate things for what they are. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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what ever you think about wilf...enjoy watching the best player to ever be produced by the club, as he continues to help us to play above our level, whilst he is still with us.

as trust me if you think wilf is frustrating, you just wait til we have wingers like mark kennedy & paul ifil again...then you may really appreciate what we currently have.

it really grinds my gears, that a section of our fanbase have forgotten where we have come from, and what type of club we historically have been, and all they do is bitch & whine about every little detail of the club we love so much like spoilt kids.

just appreciate things for what they are.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 24 Oct 20 8.24am
I am not batching of whining except to say I hate the Wilf summer circus. The rest of my post is my view on where our star player is in his career. If that's not a legitimate topic for discussion on a fans' forum, then I don't know what is. Wilf has been great. His best football is indeed a joy. I'm not blind to that. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Wickham de L'Ouest 24 Oct 20 8.24am

I am not batching of whining except to say I hate the Wilf summer circus.

The rest of my post is my view on where our star player is in his career. If that's not a legitimate topic for discussion on a fans' forum, then I don't know what is.

Wilf has been great. His best football is indeed a joy. I'm not blind to that.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Oct 20 9.30am
Originally posted by PatrickA He really is at a crossroads this season. The Palace fan and journalist Ed Aarons said that the agency arrangement with Pini Zahavi ended with the close of the transfer window. Zaha had appointed him because of Zahavi’s extensive contacts in the game, but he didn’t get him the desired move so it appears Zaha is looking for a third agent in around a year. There were rumours of interest from PSG and Borussia Dortmund earlier in the window , but these never rang true. Aarons suggests the only glimmer of interest in the summer was from Man U as a fallback if they couldn’t get Sancho and also due to a reduced fee because of the sell on clause. The interest was never pursued though. Personally I would like him to have an opportunity to play at Champions League level but feel it’s unlikely now. Taking into account that he’s soon 28, the large fee required and the question marks over his delivery and composure in front of goal there has to be a serious doubt. His best hope is to hit a consistent spell of incredible form so the top clubs feel they can’t afford to miss out, But I wouldn’t hold my breath. These alone mean he’ll never play for a big club. And his wages put any size club off. COYP
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Caterham 24 Oct 20 9.30am

Originally posted by PatrickA

He really is at a crossroads this season.
The Palace fan and journalist Ed Aarons said that the agency arrangement with Pini Zahavi ended with the close of the transfer window.
Zaha had appointed him because of Zahavi’s extensive contacts in the game, but he didn’t get him the desired move so it appears Zaha is looking for a third agent in around a year.
There were rumours of interest from PSG and Borussia Dortmund earlier in the window , but these never rang true.
Aarons suggests the only glimmer of interest in the summer was from Man U as a fallback if they couldn’t get Sancho and also due to a reduced fee because of the sell on clause.
The interest was never pursued though.
Personally I would like him to have an opportunity to play at Champions League level but feel it’s unlikely now.
Taking into account that he’s soon 28, the large fee required and the question marks over his delivery and composure in front of goal there has to be a serious doubt.
His best hope is to hit a consistent spell of incredible form so the top clubs feel they can’t afford to miss out,
But I wouldn’t hold my breath.

These alone mean he’ll never play for a big club. And his wages put any size club off.

COYP

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Spiderman Horsham 24 Oct 20 10.23am
Originally posted by Casual Nice one , ring them. He’s looking for a new agent. My son has watched them several times, whilst doing a football scouting course, and he commented on first seeing them that Wilf would be a perfect fit. Except of course they couldn’t afford his wages!! Which I believe has been one of the major reasons for not moving. Having said that, if winning trophies/playing CL is that important take a paycut
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Horsham 24 Oct 20 10.23am

Originally posted by Casual

Nice one , ring them. He’s looking for a new agent.

My son has watched them several times, whilst doing a football scouting course, and he commented on first seeing them that Wilf would be a perfect fit. Except of course they couldn’t afford his wages!! Which I believe has been one of the major reasons for not moving. Having said that, if winning trophies/playing CL is that important take a paycut

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Eaglehamster Storrington 24 Oct 20 10.30am
Another thing we should remember: That seven straight defeat run only came to an end when Wilf returned. I recall in an interview him saying with absolute confidence that the team would revive. Of course thay did. Also remember that for a very long stretch the only games where we got any points were those in which he played. I feel very sorry for him now, not because he isn't going to a glamour side, but because he has to fit into such a negatively tactical style where he has to defend so much to the detriment of what he does best. I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.
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Storrington 24 Oct 20 10.30am

Another thing we should remember: That seven straight defeat run only came to an end when Wilf returned. I recall in an interview him saying with absolute confidence that the team would revive. Of course thay did.

Also remember that for a very long stretch the only games where we got any points were those in which he played.

I feel very sorry for him now, not because he isn't going to a glamour side, but because he has to fit into such a negatively tactical style where he has to defend so much to the detriment of what he does best.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 24 Oct 20 10.40am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman These alone mean he’ll never play for a big club. And his wages put any size club off. Riad Mahrez reportedly earns Ł200k a week. Harry Maguire similar. Wilf is on silly money, of course, but if he racked up 15 goals and assists by the end of January, maybe, just maybe, a bid/package comes in that works for everyone. And we feel secure enough to accept it. Personally, I want it. I want us to move on, and I want Wilf to reach his potential with no hard feelings. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

These alone mean he’ll never play for a big club. And his wages put any size club off.

Riad Mahrez reportedly earns Ł200k a week. Harry Maguire similar.

Wilf is on silly money, of course, but if he racked up 15 goals and assists by the end of January, maybe, just maybe, a bid/package comes in that works for everyone. And we feel secure enough to accept it.

Personally, I want it. I want us to move on, and I want Wilf to reach his potential with no hard feelings.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 24 Oct 20 11.07am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle what ever you think about wilf...enjoy watching the best player to ever be produced by the club, as he continues to help us to play above our level, whilst he is still with us. as trust me if you think wilf is frustrating, you just wait til we have wingers like mark kennedy & paul ifil again...then you may really appreciate what we currently have. it really grinds my gears, that a section of our fanbase have forgotten where we have come from, and what type of club we historically have been, and all they do is bitch & whine about every little detail of the club we love so much like spoilt kids. just appreciate things for what they are. It’s irrelevant where we have come from and whether if it grinds your gears or not, people are simply talking about the merits (or not) of one of our players. There was NOTHING to enjoy about watching him last season or in the most recent two games. He was very poor last year and awful to watch too. Slowing the game down, side wards or backward passes with none of the flair he has built his reputation on. Exactly the same in our most recent game which, penalty aside, was probably the worst and least effective 90 minutes he’s ever played for us. He is a sulker and a moaner and teams know how easy he is to wind up. As has also been mentioned the transfer Window circus over recent seasons has been pathetic and embarrassing. Perhaps an accurate reflection of how he is these days as a person. Far too inconsistent, lacking in end product and has lost his electrifying pace. He’d be a bench warmer at best for any serious Champions League side. He used to be VERY good...but isn’t any more. Edited by Phil’s Barber (24 Oct 2020 11.08am)
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Crowborough 24 Oct 20 11.07am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

what ever you think about wilf...enjoy watching the best player to ever be produced by the club, as he continues to help us to play above our level, whilst he is still with us.

as trust me if you think wilf is frustrating, you just wait til we have wingers like mark kennedy & paul ifil again...then you may really appreciate what we currently have.

just appreciate things for what they are.

It’s irrelevant where we have come from and whether if it grinds your gears or not, people are simply talking about the merits (or not) of one of our players.
There was NOTHING to enjoy about watching him last season or in the most recent two games. He was very poor last year and awful to watch too. Slowing the game down, side wards or backward passes with none of the flair he has built his reputation on. Exactly the same in our most recent game which, penalty aside, was probably the worst and least effective 90 minutes he’s ever played for us.
He is a sulker and a moaner and teams know how easy he is to wind up. As has also been mentioned the transfer Window circus over recent seasons has been pathetic and embarrassing. Perhaps an accurate reflection of how he is these days as a person.
Far too inconsistent, lacking in end product and has lost his electrifying pace. He’d be a bench warmer at best for any serious Champions League side.

He used to be VERY good...but isn’t any more.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Oct 20 11.18am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle what ever you think about wilf...enjoy watching the best player to ever be produced by the club, as he continues to help us to play above our level, whilst he is still with us. as trust me if you think wilf is frustrating, you just wait til we have wingers like mark kennedy & paul ifil again...then you may really appreciate what we currently have. it really grinds my gears, that a section of our fanbase have forgotten where we have come from, and what type of club we historically have been, and all they do is bitch & whine about every little detail of the club we love so much like spoilt kids. just appreciate things for what they are. Is Paul Ifil available and do we have a free squad place? Red and Blue Army!
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

what ever you think about wilf...enjoy watching the best player to ever be produced by the club, as he continues to help us to play above our level, whilst he is still with us.

as trust me if you think wilf is frustrating, you just wait til we have wingers like mark kennedy & paul ifil again...then you may really appreciate what we currently have.

just appreciate things for what they are.

Is Paul Ifil available and do we have a free squad place?

Red and Blue Army!

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