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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 09 Nov 20 3.57pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger I think your evidence is flawed as it's on a 2D screen... I think Clynes arm in your Pic is more along the line of the horizontal, so it's not necessarily closer to the goal. Having said that the dotted lines are clearly going to different points on the arms of both players. Bamfords looks like its on his Elbow, and his arm clearly was closer to goal. A dotted line correctly positioned on his arm would show onside. Just goes to show how much of a cr@p system it is. Yes, despite viewing this on a 2D television the lines used by VAR don’t change and will fall where they are shown to fall. Bamford's line is drawn too close to the elbow and Clyne’s is drawn on completely the wrong side of his arm (all on VAR’s own system). Considering those aspects and how close VAR shows the margin of offside to be, were their lines drawn in the correct position, anyone who has looked at the Image being used can see that Bamford would’ve been on side. (This also doesn’t take into account that due to Kouyate’s body shape and position relevant to Bamford, he was potentially also playing him onside but the lines couldn’t be drawn as the left boot and left buttock were obscured by Bamford due to the camera angle.)
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 09 Nov 20 3.57pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I think your evidence is flawed as it's on a 2D screen...

I think Clynes arm in your Pic is more along the line of the horizontal, so it's not necessarily closer to the goal.

Having said that the dotted lines are clearly going to different points on the arms of both players. Bamfords looks like its on his Elbow, and his arm clearly was closer to goal. A dotted line correctly positioned on his arm would show onside.

Just goes to show how much of a cr@p system it is.

Yes, despite viewing this on a 2D television the lines used by VAR don’t change and will fall where they are shown to fall.

Bamford's line is drawn too close to the elbow and Clyne’s is drawn on completely the wrong side of his arm (all on VAR’s own system). Considering those aspects and how close VAR shows the margin of offside to be, were their lines drawn in the correct position, anyone who has looked at the Image being used can see that Bamford would’ve been on side.

(This also doesn’t take into account that due to Kouyate’s body shape and position relevant to Bamford, he was potentially also playing him onside but the lines couldn’t be drawn as the left boot and left buttock were obscured by Bamford due to the camera angle.)

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sprites Auckland 09 Nov 20 7.29pm
Either way, glad it happened to bumfluff. Smug git who's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.
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sprites

Auckland 09 Nov 20 7.29pm

Either way, glad it happened to bumfluff. Smug git who's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.

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Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Nov 20 7.35pm
Originally posted by sprites Either way, glad it happened to bumfluff. Smug git who's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. He is vastly improved under Bielsa at Leeds. Scored 7 goals this season in 8 games. Last season he scored 16 goals.
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Willo Online

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Nov 20 7.35pm

Originally posted by sprites

Either way, glad it happened to bumfluff. Smug git who's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.

He is vastly improved under Bielsa at Leeds.
Scored 7 goals this season in 8 games.
Last season he scored 16 goals.

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 09 Nov 20 8.06pm
Originally posted by sprites Either way, glad it happened to bumfluff. Smug git who's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. This is very true.
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 09 Nov 20 8.06pm

Originally posted by sprites

Either way, glad it happened to bumfluff. Smug git who's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.

This is very true.

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davenotamonkey 09 Nov 20 8.39pm
Originally posted by becky Maybe he went to a North Korean academy and learnt from the great leader himself...... [Link] I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing when I saw this thread.... "If only I could be bothered to photoshop Bamfords face onto all those Kim Jong Un photos!" :-)
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Originally posted by becky

Maybe he went to a North Korean academy and learnt from the great leader himself......

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I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing when I saw this thread.... "If only I could be bothered to photoshop Bamfords face onto all those Kim Jong Un photos!" :-)

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pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 10 Nov 20 10.28pm
VAR has made some pretty horrific decisions but this one was about as bad as it gets. I don’t know what goes through the mind of the people who make these decisions. No football fan could possibly watch that and think it is offside. They probably would have lost anyway considering how the game went but this really needs to be sorted out.
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pompeyeagle

Relocated to Shropshire 10 Nov 20 10.28pm

VAR has made some pretty horrific decisions but this one was about as bad as it gets. I don’t know what goes through the mind of the people who make these decisions. No football fan could possibly watch that and think it is offside. They probably would have lost anyway considering how the game went but this really needs to be sorted out.

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Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Nov 20 11.04pm
Originally posted by pompeyeagle VAR has made some pretty horrific decisions but this one was about as bad as it gets. I don’t know what goes through the mind of the people who make these decisions. No football fan could possibly watch that and think it is offside. They probably would have lost anyway considering how the game went but this really needs to be sorted out. The VAR had to make a decision based on the images relayed to him. It was a hard call.
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Willo Online

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Nov 20 11.04pm

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

VAR has made some pretty horrific decisions but this one was about as bad as it gets. I don’t know what goes through the mind of the people who make these decisions. No football fan could possibly watch that and think it is offside. They probably would have lost anyway considering how the game went but this really needs to be sorted out.

The VAR had to make a decision based on the images relayed to him.
It was a hard call.

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