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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 14 Nov 20 10.59am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

I may be in the minority here, but last week, we beat Leeds 4-1, it was on the telly for me and I was just not interested, I was farting about around the house listening as it happened and yeah, I was happy we won but it didn't move me, I wasn't impacted by it all.

Maybe the fact fans aren't there or the fact the league seems shallow, corrupt with PPV and the possible breakaway league.. or the fact that the style of play hs put me off or the lack or characters..

I'm not sure, but I just feel it's pointless right now.. I want fans back in the ground, I want a few more players that connect with fans and excite us.. it just feels... too commercially constructed.. it doesn't feel like the palace I grew up with.

I hear what your saying but it has nothing to do with Palace, it is sport in general. Sport needs live fans.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 14 Nov 20 11.54am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

I hear what your saying but it has nothing to do with Palace, it is sport in general. Sport needs live fans.

Absolutely right. The money men/women can come up with whatever they like in terms contracts/schemes and ways of making money out of any live sports at the moment.

Without having live audiences for sportsmen/women athletes to perform in front of it is through no fault of the aforementioned that they are all totally bereft of any real atmosphere and home ground favouritism.

As for the cost of PPV the Premier League, TV companies and football clubs should hang their collective heads in shame- selling to fans who have already paid for Sky and BT & Amazon subscriptions & football club season tickets paying £14.95 a game then having to wait until the end of November for it to be resolved and only by fans pressure just like the cost of away match tickets!

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 14 Nov 20 12.30pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Modern football is a series of unpleasant reminders of something that's always been true: however much we might love the game, we don't own it.

We know it. They know it. They know we know it.

That's why we get such thrilling developments as...

Ticket prices increasing in gross disproportion to average income levels. Its one thing to ask me to pay for the post-Taylor report redevelopment of neglected grounds, but to subsidise three quarters of the players in the Premier league earning more in a week than I do in a year? Cap ticket prices at £20 and £10 for kids, and let the players struggle along on twenty or thirty grand a week.

Kick off times whenever they f***ing like. There is literally not a time too unfair,just so they can have football on TV every minute of every day. I love football but who exactly asked for it to be on TV this much?

The professional acceptance of diving. Just because there's contact doesn't mean they aren't throwing themselves to the floor, and I don't need a former England captain on match of the day telling me Kane/Son/Zaha/Salah/whoever had 'The right to go down there'. f*** off Shearer. I want to watch a sporting contest between committed strong athletes. If I wanted to watch people pretend they were hurt I'd sit through WWF wrestling. If you want to see top flight footballers play like men these days then you have to watch a women's game.

Political posturing. The Premier league and its broadcast partners throw themselves blindly behind blm, but have literally f*** all to say when corrupt human rights abusing states use football clubs to sportswash their reputation. The Manchester City manager wears a yellow ribbon to support Catalan politicians imprisoned in Spain and not one of the weasels asks him how exactly he thinks his paymasters run their country. Then a state who frequently torture and kill their own (when they're not too busy funding islamist terrorism) wants to buy Newcastle and they only fail the fit and proper persons test because they host knock-off streams of Premier league games. Yeah I think I'll get my moral guidance elsewhere thanks.

VAR. Honest to christ, why is this OK?


The golden thread through all this is simple: They decide its OK. We get lumbered.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 14 Nov 20 12.30pm

Originally posted by Vaibow

I may be in the minority here, but last week, we beat Leeds 4-1, it was on the telly for me and I was just not interested, I was farting about around the house listening as it happened and yeah, I was happy we won but it didn't move me, I wasn't impacted by it all.

Maybe the fact fans aren't there or the fact the league seems shallow, corrupt with PPV and the possible breakaway league.. or the fact that the style of play hs put me off or the lack or characters..

I'm not sure, but I just feel it's pointless right now.. I want fans back in the ground, I want a few more players that connect with fans and excite us.. it just feels... too commercially constructed.. it doesn't feel like the palace I grew up with.

It's just the strange times we're in mate. Things will get back to how they were and we'll appreciate it all the more..

 

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View doi209's Profile doi209 Flag Fighting for the weak and innocent... 14 Nov 20 2.26pm Send a Private Message to doi209 Add doi209 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

indeed and I remember turning up along with 51,000 others on that famous night against Burnley, bought my ticket and got in (despite the fact our official capacity was only 47,000).

Yep - I remember that too. I turned up with my girlfriend of 7 weeks. Must have been good as I proposed 3 weeks later.
Now married 40 years. She has never been to another match and no interest in football.

 

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View doi209's Profile doi209 Flag Fighting for the weak and innocent... 14 Nov 20 2.28pm Send a Private Message to doi209 Add doi209 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Modern football is a series of unpleasant reminders of something that's always been true: however much we might love the game, we don't own it.

We know it. They know it. They know we know it.

That's why we get such thrilling developments as...

Ticket prices increasing in gross disproportion to average income levels. Its one thing to ask me to pay for the post-Taylor report redevelopment of neglected grounds, but to subsidise three quarters of the players in the Premier league earning more in a week than I do in a year? Cap ticket prices at £20 and £10 for kids, and let the players struggle along on twenty or thirty grand a week.

Kick off times whenever they f***ing like. There is literally not a time too unfair,just so they can have football on TV every minute of every day. I love football but who exactly asked for it to be on TV this much?

The professional acceptance of diving. Just because there's contact doesn't mean they aren't throwing themselves to the floor, and I don't need a former England captain on match of the day telling me Kane/Son/Zaha/Salah/whoever had 'The right to go down there'. f*** off Shearer. I want to watch a sporting contest between committed strong athletes. If I wanted to watch people pretend they were hurt I'd sit through WWF wrestling. If you want to see top flight footballers play like men these days then you have to watch a women's game.

Political posturing. The Premier league and its broadcast partners throw themselves blindly behind blm, but have literally f*** all to say when corrupt human rights abusing states use football clubs to sportswash their reputation. The Manchester City manager wears a yellow ribbon to support Catalan politicians imprisoned in Spain and not one of the weasels asks him how exactly he thinks his paymasters run their country. Then a state who frequently torture and kill their own (when they're not too busy funding islamist terrorism) wants to buy Newcastle and they only fail the fit and proper persons test because they host knock-off streams of Premier league games. Yeah I think I'll get my moral guidance elsewhere thanks.

VAR. Honest to christ, why is this OK?


The golden thread through all this is simple: They decide its OK. We get lumbered.

Couldn't agree more

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 14 Nov 20 2.30pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt


Kick off times whenever they f***ing like. There is literally not a time too unfair,just so they can have football on TV every minute of every day. I love football but who exactly asked for it to be on TV this much?

Well, nobody. But the TV companies had an idea that people might be willing to pay for live televised matches so they provided it (the "product"!) and have been proved right. If people weren't willing to pay for live TV football, it wouldn't exist. I don't have it - not for any principled reason, but simply because I'm only interested in seeing one team and I can't be bothered. The thought of watching matches and inane, pontificating experts four days a week depresses me.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 20 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Only one or two, Willo?

Probably too enthusiastic on the jungle juice.
I doubt sobriety would be on the agenda !

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 14 Nov 20 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It terms of football, gone are the days of rosettes and rattles and standing on rain-lashed terraces watching teams playing on mud baths.
After matches, a stream of supporters walking near someone with a transistor radio to attain the final scores.


Or buying the Evening Standard Classified on the way home

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 20 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Or buying the Evening Standard Classified on the way home

Oh yes ! I remember this well.There was often a queue in the newsagents waiting for the van to arrive.
In Hale,Cheshire I have queued for the 'Pink' and in Dore on the outskirts of Sheffield I have waited for what was known as the "Green'un".

Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2020 3.59pm)

 

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View adelaar's Profile adelaar Flag Edgware 14 Nov 20 4.12pm Send a Private Message to adelaar Add adelaar as a friend

Originally posted by doi209

Yep - I remember that too. I turned up with my girlfriend of 7 weeks. Must have been good as I proposed 3 weeks later.
Now married 40 years. She has never been to another match and no interest in football.


April 2010, Palace v Leeds. A win sees us basically safe from relegation to League 1. Decide to bring the new gf (and still current, I should add) to Selhurst. Danns scores early, 1-0 win, happy days.
What does she say when we get to our seats? 'Is this all the fans you got?' OK shes Spurs, but that comment didn't go down well...

 

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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 14 Nov 20 4.23pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

A different world back in the day. No segregation of fans. You even applauded your opponent's goals (even though you didn't mean it). Banter in the pub afterwards.

A successful Div 1 player may have put enough by to start his own business (usually a pub) when he retired from the game.
No doubt the players are fitter these days but my god aren't they payed for it! The average PL player earning roughly 20X what the Prime Minister gets.

I feel no such nostalgia for the hooligan era. There's still an element of this but a small minority hopefully.

I don't miss the sh1tty pitches either.

Only one thing remains the same: the national team's under-achievement. (OK 66-70 was the exception).

 


I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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