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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Feb 21 9.39am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

If being a woke means being against racism, then count me in, unlike some of the racists on here.

Wiki's definition of 'WOKE'

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When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Originally posted by cryrst

Priti Patel doesn't agree with it.
Also slammed the blm protests for the trouble and damage they caused and the police time it took up.

Posted this on the other 'kneeling' thread

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Feb 21 10.03am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by lefty27

Good work, racism sorted.
Next time you’re being racially abused just say ‘sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me’ to yourself and everything will be fine/ or just grow up because if someone wants to racially abuse you it’s up to them and you should grow up and take it.
Good plan. quote=Stirlingsays;3604110]

He's just desperate to be thought well of by his in-group.

The weaponsised 'racism' word is just a way of demonising an out-group for him.

The fact that they don't see it is a constant source of irony, then again it isn't in their interest to.

Until enough people reject the 'sticks and stones' stuff we will continue on this pointless charade. In truth change only comes when enough elites want it to, as they fund the cultural zeitgeist that the unthinking plebs follow.

When enough elites feel threatened that's when it'll change, that's how history works....it's all very Salem witch trials...which didn't end until the governor of the colony's own wife was accused of witchcraft.

Until then it didn't matter.

However, something on this scale would require an event much more dramatic, which no doubt wouldn't be fun at all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2021 9.00am)

You plainly didn't understand.

Please read things properly before commenting as it then doesn't require extra posts having to explain even more clearly.

Ok, here is the meaning.

Racism isn't going to end as it's a factor of the human condition. It has never ended, anywhere, ever in the course of human history. Group preference, in whatever form, is genetically burned in.

All the current zeitgeist does is create a less honest and more expedient and shallow society. It doesn't deal with any real issues and will continue on its pointless virtue signaling way until there's a major directional change amongst elites.

Understand now? I clearly don't believe in child like notions of, what you think of as, 'racism' ending just as I don't agree with its equally child like definitions.


Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2021 5.54pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Feb 21 11.34am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Good example of how complicated these things can be.

Man discovers that his black ancestor owned slaves and was compensated by the UK for freeing them.

 


One more point

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 13 Feb 21 12.10pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

It's certainly overused, but of course racism can and does come from all directions. The act of trying to redefine racism in such a way that declares that white people cannot even be on the receiving end of racism is of course absurd for instance.

But I'm not all that eager for a muddled political climate to be used as way of blotting out repugnant acts of racism. That of course is what these footballers have been on the receiving end of, and as I say in any other form of communication people wouldn't put up with it and so they shouldn't have to online either. If someone's brave enough to reel off slurs, they can be brave enough to put their name to it. That'll soon shut them up for the most part, because nobody with a shred of decency about them wants to be linked to such conduct.

Edited by BlueJay (13 Feb 2021 6.10am)

Similar to the devaluation of the word 'racist' is the use of the word 'fascist'. We have now reached the laughable position where Miriam Margoyles calls JK Rowlings, saying people who mensurate are women, 'fascist'.

Edited by georgenorman (13 Feb 2021 12.10pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Feb 21 12.58pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Black Lives Matters

Dear Roy,

when the Burnley players all kneel, i want Ayew Benteke & Zaha to charge down the lanes and score a goal.

Black Eagle careers matter.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Feb 21 1.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Similar to the devaluation of the word 'racist' is the use of the word 'fascist'. We have now reached the laughable position where Miriam Margoyles calls JK Rowlings, saying people who mensurate are women, 'fascist'.

Edited by georgenorman (13 Feb 2021 12.10pm)

I use to think that woman was sensible.

Fantastic actress though.

 


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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 13 Feb 21 1.17pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Not sure how I'm just desperate to be thought well of by my in-group, as Stirling says, as you don't know me, perhaps it's just something I genuinely believe.

But unlike others, I also appreciate that I may be wrong.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Feb 21 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Not sure how I'm just desperate to be thought well of by my in-group, as Stirling says, as you don't know me, perhaps it's just something I genuinely believe.

But unlike others, I also appreciate that I may be wrong.

You were happy to call others you don't know 'racist' from their posts, yet...here I read you complaining about being judged by others who don't know you.

My oh my what a mine of irony.

I assure you I have no doubt that you genuinely believe your position. That's the point of ideology, it's based upon conceptual beliefs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2021 2.54pm)

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 13 Feb 21 1.44pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Similar to the devaluation of the word 'racist' is the use of the word 'fascist'. We have now reached the laughable position where Miriam Margoyles calls JK Rowlings, saying people who mensurate are women, 'fascist'.

Edited by georgenorman (13 Feb 2021 12.10pm)

Yes, Miriam Margoyles is someone who is certainly as shocking and outspoken as many a keyboard warrior, only she takes reactions to her comments on the chin. She herself regularly gets 'You're a nazi' 'you're worse than Hitler' type emails and tweets as result of her Israel comments for instance and has lost friends and employment opportunities due to her outspoken nature. If we're to treat footballers getting personally harassed by (largely anonymous) racists as a nothing event then why does it matter what she says either?

Interestingly I did spot a Daily Mail article from James Dreyfus with the completely opposite view on JK Rowling yesterday [Link] . I found myself in agreement of a fair amount of what he said. No doubt they'll both get it in the neck from one group or another. Them's the breaks.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 Feb 21 5.05pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Not sure how I'm just desperate to be thought well of by my in-group, as Stirling says, as you don't know me, perhaps it's just something I genuinely believe.

But unlike others, I also appreciate that I may be wrong.

If I prefer being around white people than black people am I racist?
Think about your own preference honestly!
Then ask if you are racist.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Feb 21 5.44pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Black Lives Matters

Dear Roy,

when the Burnley players all kneel, i want Ayew Benteke & Zaha to charge down the lanes and score a goal.

Black Eagle careers matter.

The score wouldn't have been much different if our players had taken the knee for the whole 90 today. Some of the players may even have been better if they did.

 


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