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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 09 Jul 21 1.15pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Pembroke

The image perplexes me .. Hence my whys?

You would care if you were not prejudiced. That you do not care (?) highlights your values and your perception of others as less worthy.

It's celebrating the black contribution to this England team .. Is it? If you do not know who created the image, where it comes from you will not understand
its whys .. The image is provocative .. The image could have be created to provoke and be divisive .. You have made a decision that the image will create outrage to who you perceive to be bigots = That is not an image created to be celebratory.

If the image was reframed to highlight only white players and the world black removed for white .. I suspect you would care vociferously.

We are all one. One beautiful, diverse and multicultural England team. And I couldn't be prouder of them ALL.

And it's coming home.

 


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View Pembroke's Profile Pembroke Flag Bristol 09 Jul 21 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

diverse and multicultural

Your image removed diversity ..

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jul 21 1.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

We are all one. One beautiful, diverse and multicultural England team. And I couldn't be prouder of them ALL.

And it's coming home.

When your obvious biases get exposed and questioned it's suddenly 'we are all one'.

I have no problem with your bias because it's natural, but the word salad and hypocrisy will always annoy me.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2021 1.39pm)

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Jul 21 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Interesting comment from a lady who is a camp survivor however it applies to many other people in all walks of life.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Jul 2021 1.11pm)

I trust that was something a tad more harrowing than Summer camp that she is referring to Badger, although I know some who would feel that way if forced to be outdoors!

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 Jul 21 2.53pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Interesting comment from a lady who is a camp survivor however it applies to many other people in all walks of life.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Jul 2021 1.11pm)

Great passage.

Which book is this please Badger?

 


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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 09 Jul 21 3.18pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Pembroke

Your image removed diversity ..

It isn't my image, I just shared it

 


La la la your mum

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Jul 21 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

It isn't my image, I just shared it

So you are happy to share an image that removes diversity

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jul 21 3.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Of course it makes sense. It’s your worldview which doesn’t make sense and is completely unrealistic.

How would Raheem Sterling, our best player in the tournament so far, be able to play for England if his mum had never been able to immigrate from Jamaica?

I couldn't care less about his mum.

What I care about is people like you supporting someone who posts a picture of only Black England players and then talks about diversity. That ain't diversity and you know it.

If I had to choose between England never winning anything ever or undoing the total mess this country has become because of mass immigration, I'd choose the latter every time.

 

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View Pembroke's Profile Pembroke Flag Bristol 09 Jul 21 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

It isn't my image, I just shared it

I will stick with your. You made a post, its yours and the image you chose to post was not a celebration of the team as you assert, it cannot be - There were no white players in the image.

Would you be happy if the image was reversed to only highlight white players and white lives matter?

As I pointed out I am perplexed to why anybody would choose to post such, your motives, the image creator, those who share it I would suggest are to be divisive.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Jul 21 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

We are all one. One beautiful, diverse and multicultural England team. And I couldn't be prouder of them ALL.

And it's coming home.

Couldn’t be prouder of them ALL? Why no white players one your original post then? Was it just antagonist?

Edited by Spiderman (09 Jul 2021 4.06pm)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jul 21 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Great passage.

Which book is this please Badger?

The Choice

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That section I highlighted resonates with me. You can allow victimhood to define you and spend your life moaning or you can accept that sh*t happens and then do something practical about it.

We have a culture of victimhood in this country, it cuts across class culture and colour its not one demographic.

Complaining and virtue signalling about how life is unfair to you doesn't get the job done. If you want to make the world a better place for yourself and others then focus on specific goals that are achievable.

BLM, Extinction Rebellion, and may others don't understand this. Going on a protest march or taking the knee only raises awareness then what? Soon it becomes whinging and people zone out.

Marcus Rashford focused on free school meals and got the politicians to back down that is what I mean.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 Jul 21 4.34pm

Originally posted by Badger11

The Choice

[Link]

That section I highlighted resonates with me. You can allow victimhood to define you and spend your life moaning or you can accept that sh*t happens and then do something practical about it.

We have a culture of victimhood in this country, it cuts across class culture and colour its not one demographic.

Complaining and virtue signalling about how life is unfair to you doesn't get the job done. If you want to make the world a better place for yourself and others then focus on specific goals that are achievable.

BLM, Extinction Rebellion, and may others don't understand this. Going on a protest march or taking the knee only raises awareness then what? Soon it becomes whinging and people zone out.

Marcus Rashford focused on free school meals and got the politicians to back down that is what I mean.

Could not agree more. Ironically I find playing the victim is actually self fulfilling.

We all have our stuff. Weight, colour, spots, parents, lack of parents, poverty, relative poverty, height, looks, education etc, etc, etc. Personally I try to use any disadvantages I had as fuel to help me succeed, not as something to hold me back.

As cliche as it sounds, life is what you decide to make it.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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