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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Dec 20 8.40am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I noticed the government is going to ban the live export of farm animals. I think this is a good start I would also like to see any subsidies to farmers linked to better animal welfare.

we have a real opportunity here to lead the world with compassionate farming.

Agreed.
The ban does not include “ high value “ animals eg race horses as they are well looked after when travelling rather than crammed in together for days on end.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Dec 20 8.44am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Small farming is doomed. Animal grazing on hills is doomed. But that’s ok because all farmers are c units. Watch the land change and the quality of food dwindle. Then come back and tell us the farmers deserved a spanking. A completely ill informed and prejudiced post that ignores the realities.

Farming is now officially a public good. Think centralised State control. And be very afraid

Edited by Mapletree (08 Dec 2020 10.22pm)

Edited by Spiderman (09 Dec 2020 8.55am)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Dec 20 11.10am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I noticed the government is going to ban the live export of farm animals. I think this is a good start I would also like to see any subsidies to farmers linked to better animal welfare.

we have a real opportunity here to lead the world with compassionate farming.

We do

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Dec 20 11.13am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

there is a lot of farm land near me.
One plot inparticular, either side of Long furlong is quiet beautiful, sheep, cows in the fields & stunning when the sun is coming up / going down.

From what I've heard on radio 4 & 2 talk spots, the farmers seem pleased to have left EU?

Nobody knows what will happen

They are pretty concerned about what has been stated relating to subsidies. It is all entirely dependent upon the 'public good' point. So far the Government has not impressed and appears no better than the EU

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Dec 20 12.27pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Nobody knows what will happen

They are pretty concerned about what has been stated relating to subsidies. It is all entirely dependent upon the 'public good' point. So far the Government has not impressed and appears no better than the EU

Farmers got a lot less subsidies before the EU, however, they often got a decent price for their produce. The obvious solution is to bring produce direct to the customer. We often buy meat direct from the farmer in the market. It's more expensive but obviously more ethical (which I don't particularly care about) but it's tastier (which I do care about) and healthier. I'm pretty sure co-ops, markets and farmer's markets could actually make farmers fare better than they currently do.
Big farmers will actually suffer, continuing to supply supermarkets, who the f@ck buys non free range eggs anymore? And doesn't everyone drink oat/soya/almond lattes these days? Barely any need for the cheap milk either. So small farms have a future: big farms and factory farms may have to consider change. Particularly when you consider consumer education these days. I just wouldn't buy that crap - it's not ethics, it's taste. I'm not rich but a few quid to enjoy something won't kill me.

Edited by ASCPFC (09 Dec 2020 12.28pm)

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 09 Dec 20 12.42pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

We need to go full Carnivore. I know when I do then I feel so so much better.

Steak and sunshine. All you need.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Dec 20 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC
So small farms have a future: big farms and factory farms may have to consider change.

Edited by ASCPFC (09 Dec 2020 12.28pm)

Then you know better than the small farming community and the farming agribusinesses and the Government, each of whom has it the other way around. Which is nice. I recommend you take your ideas to mid Wales.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Dec 20 3.03pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yup. Also sells haylage if it's who I think it is.

Not sure whether you will know him, he farms Venison and occasionally Pork and very tasty it is too. I try and buy in bulk from him and his other half who farms Lamb. A young guy, hard worker and very keen to make the most out of his land.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Dec 20 3.14pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Then you know better than the small farming community and the farming agribusinesses and the Government, each of whom has it the other way around. Which is nice. I recommend you take your ideas to mid Wales.

A helpful consideration of the future there. Perhaps they could adapt like everyone has to in the end. Where I live everyone's a farmer - they do this and alsosell to more 'boutique' type stores. We're obviously far more fancy pants in the West of Ireland than Wales. The issue constantly spoken about here is supermarket prices and middleman prices. Cut them out - go direct to the consumer. Even go online! Such revelations, it's called business and marketing. At the end of the day, farms are businesses and need to think of their business model. If they did that as much as they moan, they'd all be millionaires.

 


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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 09 Dec 20 3.45pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

A helpful consideration of the future there. Perhaps they could adapt like everyone has to in the end. Where I live everyone's a farmer - they do this and alsosell to more 'boutique' type stores. We're obviously far more fancy pants in the West of Ireland than Wales. The issue constantly spoken about here is supermarket prices and middleman prices. Cut them out - go direct to the consumer. Even go online! Such revelations, it's called business and marketing. At the end of the day, farms are businesses and need to think of their business model. If they did that as much as they moan, they'd all be millionaires.

clonakilty sausages, mmmm

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Dec 20 3.47pm Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Not sure whether you will know him, he farms Venison and occasionally Pork and very tasty it is too. I try and buy in bulk from him and his other half who farms Lamb. A young guy, hard worker and very keen to make the most out of his land.

Bloke offered me 8 legs of venison for 50 quid once.

I told him it was too dear.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Originally posted by mezzer

Bloke offered me 8 legs of venison for 50 quid once.

I told him it was too dear.



great.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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