They haven’t got through over 80’s yet. Might be people desperate for inheritance and want to save money on future care home costs and let taking their elderly parents to get the vaccine slip their minds.

COYP

You got a brother?

Ha ha, have actually!

Initial Israeli data: First Pfizer shot curbs infections by 50% after 14 days - [Link]

An interesting new study taken just two weeks after the first Pfizer shot was administered.

It appear to suggest that it 'does' curb actual infection to some extent two weeks in (which would infer that it also reduces spread to others) rather than just the actual impact of the virus.

However, "Alroy-Preis said that nearly one-fifth of over 1,000 current serious COVID-19 patients had previously received the first dose of Pfizer’s vaccine". But when you consider the incubation period and also time it takes for the vaccine to start working, this figure will likely decrease massively over time.

It's important to remember that these individuals could've been infected shortly after vaccination, and that it doesn't convey full protection. "The second dose is expected to bring immunity levels to some 95% after about a week".

This comment from elsewhere on the study and vaccine is of note "the antibody titres are almost nonexistent days 0-13, and then increase until day 21. Then, after the second dose, they increase 10-fold, HIGHLY increasing your immune response".

and "Preliminary data from the Clalit HMO Research Institute show that there is a significant decrease in the infection of those who have been vaccinated - 14 days after the first vaccine dose. This is a population aged 60 and over. In the 5 to 12 days after the first dose, no effect of the vaccine is seen at all, explains Prof. Ran Blitzer, head of Clalit's innovation department. On the 13th there is a slight decrease, then a 33% drop on the 14th."

This is previous info released about the vaccine:

"A paper published in the New England Journal of Medicine stated that the efficacy of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 52.4% between the first and second dose (spaced 21 days apart).5 However, in its “green book” Public Health England said that during the phase III trial most of the vaccine failures were in the days immediately after the first dose, indicating that the short term protection starts around day 10.6 Looking at the data from day 15 to 21, it calculated that the efficacy against symptomatic covid-19 was around 89%."

As such, hopefully a followup a further week on will have even more positive findings.

This would suggest that people should be careful for two-three weeks after vaccination, and also that following the second dose (whenever that happens) their chances of contracting covid or passing it on would likely be massively reduced.

Hopefully studies like this will emerge pertaining to the other vaccines.

Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2021 12.34pm)

My wife received her first jab this morning. She got the Pfizer one. She is involved with the NHS so is on the priority list.

I hope to get mine in a few weeks.

My only worry was that it was done at the local hospital where a huge surge in cases was announced yesterday. It was very busy there with lots of rushing about.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Well that’s one thing to put your mind slightly more at ease. Hopefully she’ll get the follow-up shot when required.
Provided there are no Hancock-Ups on the supply front.