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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 09 Jan 21 1.38pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

I was 'over the moon' to receive the Pfizer jab in December. But my 2nd jab on Jan 4th was cancelled as the government wanted to give more people a first dose. My 2nd jab will not be now until March.

On the face of it a sensible decision UNTIL I discovered that Pfizer have not trialled a 12 week gap between doses and both the WHO and FDA have stated that the 2nd dose should not be given later than 6 weeks.

It is possible I have become an uninvited 'guinea-pig' with my protection not guaranteed beyond the end of January.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Jan 21 2.46pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

I was 'over the moon' to receive the Pfizer jab in December. But my 2nd jab on Jan 4th was cancelled as the government wanted to give more people a first dose. My 2nd jab will not be now until March.

On the face of it a sensible decision UNTIL I discovered that Pfizer have not trialled a 12 week gap between doses and both the WHO and FDA have stated that the 2nd dose should not be given later than 6 weeks.

It is possible I have become an uninvited 'guinea-pig' with my protection not guaranteed beyond the end of January.

I think you are right. Apparently could be legal issues, as the consent you signed was to receive the jabs “as was” ie 3 weeks apart. As no one knows how effective this jab is with such a long delay between the 2, could be a minefield. Hope you stay safe and are well protected

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Jan 21 3.23pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

A virologist said it can be a benefit to leave a longer gap. Not sure of the science but something to do with the immune system getting a shock into life as the first dose wains a little.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jan 21 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

What I heard is the 2nd jab provides quality and robustness, whatever the scientists want that to mean I suppose.

82 year old had 2nd jab in Caterham hill today after 1st jab on 19th December. Don’t know why, although the centre they’re doing them in were quite good at reaching out to the elderly in spring 2020.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 09 Jan 21 3.46pm

Originally posted by Uphill

I was 'over the moon' to receive the Pfizer jab in December. But my 2nd jab on Jan 4th was cancelled as the government wanted to give more people a first dose. My 2nd jab will not be now until March.

On the face of it a sensible decision UNTIL I discovered that Pfizer have not trialled a 12 week gap between doses and both the WHO and FDA have stated that the 2nd dose should not be given later than 6 weeks.

It is possible I have become an uninvited 'guinea-pig' with my protection not guaranteed beyond the end of January.

No doubt they're trying to offer as wide a blanket of protection as possible due to the current upsurge. That sounds reasonable, and I don't think they have any specific reason to believe this delay will make it less effective. At the same time though I appreciate that you'd have had a little more reassurance of that if they'd following the protocol to the letter, and also cancelling a jab they'd already offered isn't ideal!

On the plus side, you likely have far more protection against this thing than most right now, so congratulations on that front.


 

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BlueJay Flag UK 09 Jan 21 3.48pm

Coronavirus: Company's apology after £5,000 vaccine offer - [Link]

I bet there's a lot of this kind of thing going on, worded in such a way that they can just about get away with trying their luck.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 10 Jan 21 12.19am

Pfizer Vaccine Appears to Work Against Variant, Research ShowsPfizer Vaccine Appears to Work Against Variant, Research Shows - [Link]

Quote Laboratory experiments indicate the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine will offer protection against the two coronavirus variants found in the United Kingdom and South Africa.

Scientists from Pfizer and the University of Texas Medical Branch created a version of the variant in the lab, CNN reported. They took blood samples from 20 people who'd been given the Pfizer vaccine and found that antibodies from those people successfully warded off the virus variant in the lab dishes.

The lab experiment offers hope that the people who received the Pfizer vaccine will be protected from the variants in real life &#8213; at least in the short term.

I believe we should know if the same is true of the Oxford vaccine in a couple of weeks.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jan 21 9.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

A friend just called me. She turned 70 in Sept and was tipped off that one of the major London hospitals was now taking bookings for the over 70's. She has an appointment for 2 weeks time.

It looks like things are ramping up.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Jan 21 10.17am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

A friend just called me. She turned 70 in Sept and was tipped off that one of the major London hospitals was now taking bookings for the over 70's. She has an appointment for 2 weeks time.

It looks like things are ramping up.

Sorry, I don’t follow.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jan 21 10.32am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Sorry, I don’t follow.

The media have been saying only over 80's can get vaccinated at the moment. I am just pointing out that someone I know who is in the 4th tier is now getting it.

This is good news

 


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View Harborough Eagle's Profile Harborough Eagle Flag Market Harborough, Leicestershire 10 Jan 21 10.34am Send a Private Message to Harborough Eagle Add Harborough Eagle as a friend


Queue jumping when the 80's+ have not been vaccinated yet....seems selfish to me.
Unless of course they have a valid medical reason

Originally posted by Badger11

A friend just called me. She turned 70 in Sept and was tipped off that one of the major London hospitals was now taking bookings for the over 70's. She has an appointment for 2 weeks time.

It looks like things are ramping up.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jan 21 10.56am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Harborough Eagle


Queue jumping when the 80's+ have not been vaccinated yet....seems selfish to me.
Unless of course they have a valid medical reason

No they accessed her records and were happy to book her in, not queue jumping.

 


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