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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 03 Jan 21 10.21am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Oliver Norwood - one of the most atrocious things I've heard in regard to a how to play football.
Yes we know-it-all goes on, but it really shouldn't. For someone to openly say this - and for it to get absolutely no coverage or comment is disgraceful.
Imho, intentional fouling is one of the worst things about the game, alongside diving. The FA should at the very least condemn these comments. And even take some form of action against them.

Chris Wilder basically said the same thing after the match. He said his players where naive in the build up to the goal. Absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book. Jimmy Mac wouldn’t have let him near the goal. He is one of the best around at cynical fouling without getting booked.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 03 Jan 21 10.32am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Can’t say I agree about the CB pairing - For me it’s Tomkins and Cahill. And then Dann before Kouyate. I would go back to having Luka, McArthur and Kouyate in midfield and have Eze alongside them. Think we need a stronger midfield to accommodate Eze and that may work? Or even play him in his preferred no 10 role and don’t play Zaha? Anyway, back to yesterday which was a win needed after recent thrashings and the Leicester match where they made 7 changes. Still worry that we are so open and make lots of mistakes defending which against prem teams means goals conceded. Luckily Sheffield are a very poor prem team. We shall see in coming matches just how good we are. I’m hoping that even if we get beaten it’s not a thrashing but I’m not hopeful unless we change the formation which I doubt RH will do?

Kouyate should not be anywhere near any midfield,
he has been immense for many games with defending and that is where he should remain.
Leeds United as everyone is informing us are a joy to watch ..but for both sets of fans, more or less the same as Alan Pardew, it is a touch reckless, we have problems due to poor ball control more then likely due to the player attraction and costs in the past.

Edited by Tickled pink (03 Jan 2021 10.34am)

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 03 Jan 21 10.45am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Chris Wilder basically said the same thing after the match. He said his players where naive in the build up to the goal. Absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book. Jimmy Mac wouldn’t have let him near the goal. He is one of the best around at cynical fouling without getting booked.

This is the crux of our problem, When teams stop our players from attacking by fouling them then that is reflected in the players ability to move forward in search of scoring which ultimately ends up with fans on here criticising our manager.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 03 Jan 21 10.46am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Chelsea did it to us away.
There are plenty of fans who'd say that we should it too to other teams when they're attacking us, it's just killing the enjoyment of watching good football.

Edited by Tickled pink (03 Jan 2021 10.52am)

 

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View babylonjohn's Profile babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 03 Jan 21 11.14am Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Chelsea did it to us away.
There are plenty of fans who'd say that we should it too to other teams when they're attacking us, it's just killing the enjoyment of watching good football.

Edited by Tickled pink (03 Jan 2021 10.52am)

Take your red and blue tinted specs off. We do it all the time when we are under the cosh and being overun by better teams. How do you think Luca has accumulated so many yellows ?

 

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View Noz's Profile Noz Flag North Hampshire 03 Jan 21 11.14am Send a Private Message to Noz Add Noz as a friend

18 fouls committed by SUFC yesterday, as opposed to our 8. People wonder why Zaha loses his patience when he gets hacked down time after time.

I lost count of the fouls committed by McGoldrick yesterday and am slightly bemused how more didn't get booked by a pretty lenient referee.


Originally posted by EddieMac

Chris Wilder basically said the same thing after the match. He said his players where naive in the build up to the goal. Absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book. Jimmy Mac wouldn’t have let him near the goal. He is one of the best around at cynical fouling without getting booked.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 03 Jan 21 11.27am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Noz

18 fouls committed by SUFC yesterday, as opposed to our 8. People wonder why Zaha loses his patience when he gets hacked down time after time.

I lost count of the fouls committed by McGoldrick yesterday and am slightly bemused how more didn't get booked by a pretty lenient referee.


They are just mirroring what Huddersfield did a few years back. Great first season and then atrocious second season, resorting to desperate measures when things aren't working up front. Probably going to get tougher for them, like the former in the Championship next season.

 


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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 03 Jan 21 12.00pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

James McArthur has committed the 8th most fouls in the whole league this year and not one of them are for a bad challenge. He is a clever player stopping the oppo attacking.

Zaha and Townsend have commuted more fouls than Luca.

Edited by EddieMac (03 Jan 2021 12.00pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jan 21 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

They are just mirroring what Huddersfield did a few years back. Great first season and then atrocious second season, resorting to desperate measures when things aren't working up front. Probably going to get tougher for them, like the former in the Championship next season.

They did better than perhaps many suspected but they did finish 16th and only 4 pts clear of the relegation zone.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 03 Jan 21 12.13pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

The key to yesterday's game was that we didn't allow them to settle and didn't give them time on the ball. We forced mistakes and players like Andros and McArthur worked insanely hard. Tomkins looked really solid as well and I think if we can try and keep the same back four for a few games it will make a huge difference. While Eze's goal was insane, I think for me the most impressive thing yesterday was the desire and commitment shown by the team to ensure they got three points. They could easily have come into the game expecting Sheffield Utd to rollover, but instead they paid them respect and fought for the win never letting up.

Having seen Sheffield Utd quite a bit recently I was expecting more from them, but I think it was the early goal that killed them. They had probably seen us as the game where they could get their first win, but from the start we were better, quicker and more composed. The only thing they brought to the table was fouls. They are fighting for their lives, so it isn't really a surprise and if it was us we would probably be demanding our players respond similarly, rather than letting the opposition seemingly cut through us like butter. Having said that, like Huddersfield, I won't be sad to say goodbye to them.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 03 Jan 21 2.19pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

Take your red and blue tinted specs off. We do it all the time when we are under the cosh and being overun by better teams. How do you think Luca has accumulated so many yellows ?

I agree and I never said we don't do it but Why is it then that some posters seem to think when we struggle it's not the fact that a team has got the better of us but because our manager hasn't a clue.

Yesterday you could see that Sheff.U completely did a number on us with their fouling, so with this being the case why are fans still saying we were lucky?

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 03 Jan 21 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

The key to yesterday's game was that we didn't allow them to settle and didn't give them time on the ball. We forced mistakes and players like Andros and McArthur worked insanely hard. Tomkins looked really solid as well and I think if we can try and keep the same back four for a few games it will make a huge difference. While Eze's goal was insane, I think for me the most impressive thing yesterday was the desire and commitment shown by the team to ensure they got three points. They could easily have come into the game expecting Sheffield Utd to rollover, but instead they paid them respect and fought for the win never letting up.

Having seen Sheffield Utd quite a bit recently I was expecting more from them, but I think it was the early goal that killed them. They had probably seen us as the game where they could get their first win, but from the start we were better, quicker and more composed. The only thing they brought to the table was fouls. They are fighting for their lives, so it isn't really a surprise and if it was us we would probably be demanding our players respond similarly, rather than letting the opposition seemingly cut through us like butter. Having said that, like Huddersfield, I won't be sad to say goodbye to them.

Good post, I feel though that the ref somewhat allowed their behaviour to continue, I've seen some take the captain to one side and that should've been done yesterday. Sheff.U need to plan for life in the Championship now and playing the way they are is not going to help anyone.

 

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