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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 9.16am
Earlier last year New Zealand....that country with the PM who looks like a chimp have introduced the most extreme abortion law in the world after the Abortion Legislation Bill passed its third reading in Parliament. The bill passed by 68 votes to 51 – a much narrower margin than at the first and second reading. The new law will mean that New Zealand has the most extreme abortion law in the world, this will include: Abortion will now be available on-demand, for any reason, up to birth. Sex-selective abortion will be legalised The current 20 week limit for disability-selective abortion will be scrapped and abortion will be available up to birth for disabilities including cleft lip, club foot and Down syndrome There will be no requirement that a doctor must be involved with providing an abortion There will be no legal requirement that babies born alive after a ‘failed’ abortion are given medical support There will be no legal requirement that pain relief be given to babies being aborted between 20 weeks and birth There will be no legal restrictions on controversial methods of abortion such as intact dilation and extraction abortions (also knows as partial-birth abortions) [Link] This is disgusting. The slippery slope argument is real and abortion is one of its clearest examples. Liberalism is a murderer of the unborn and in this case newly born on a scale unlike any other in history. The left, for example, the Guardian celebrated the passing of these laws even though polls in New Zealand were against them. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jan 21 9.16am

Earlier last year New Zealand....that country with the PM who looks like a chimp have introduced the most extreme abortion law in the world after the Abortion Legislation Bill passed its third reading in Parliament.

The bill passed by 68 votes to 51 – a much narrower margin than at the first and second reading.

The new law will mean that New Zealand has the most extreme abortion law in the world, this will include:

Abortion will now be available on-demand, for any reason, up to birth.

Sex-selective abortion will be legalised

The current 20 week limit for disability-selective abortion will be scrapped and abortion will be available up to birth for disabilities including cleft lip, club foot and Down syndrome

There will be no requirement that a doctor must be involved with providing an abortion

There will be no legal requirement that babies born alive after a ‘failed’ abortion are given medical support

There will be no legal requirement that pain relief be given to babies being aborted between 20 weeks and birth

There will be no legal restrictions on controversial methods of abortion such as intact dilation and extraction abortions (also knows as partial-birth abortions)

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This is disgusting.

The slippery slope argument is real and abortion is one of its clearest examples.

Liberalism is a murderer of the unborn and in this case newly born on a scale unlike any other in history.

The left, for example, the Guardian celebrated the passing of these laws even though polls in New
Zealand were against them.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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eaglesdare 04 Jan 21 10.40am
This is the real pandemic! Millions of children murdered each year because of this! Very sad reading this!
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04 Jan 21 10.40am

This is the real pandemic! Millions of children murdered each year because of this!

Very sad reading this!

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Eaglecoops CR3 04 Jan 21 10.46am
Why/how did it win in such a format in Parliament?
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CR3 04 Jan 21 10.46am

Why/how did it win in such a format in Parliament?

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Matov 04 Jan 21 10.55am
Originally posted by eaglesdare This is the real pandemic! Millions of children murdered each year because of this! Very sad reading this! In terms of kids with Downs Syndrome, it is a genocide. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

04 Jan 21 10.55am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

This is the real pandemic! Millions of children murdered each year because of this!

Very sad reading this!

In terms of kids with Downs Syndrome, it is a genocide.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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martin2412 Living The Dream 04 Jan 21 12.14pm
This is truly shocking.
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Living The Dream 04 Jan 21 12.14pm

This is truly shocking.

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Lombardinho London 04 Jan 21 12.30pm
This behaviour is puzzling until you do some research into adrenochrome. Where do the foetuses go? Wuhan, China. Hmmm. That place rings a bell. As New Zealand is six months ahead of the west in terms of the healthcare crisis, this is a good indication of how the law may change here. New Zealand's strange looking leader has an interesting bloodline if one cares to look into it. Another piece of the jigsaw maybe?
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Lombardinho

London 04 Jan 21 12.30pm

This behaviour is puzzling until you do some research into adrenochrome.
Where do the foetuses go? Wuhan, China. Hmmm. That place rings a bell.
As New Zealand is six months ahead of the west in terms of the healthcare crisis, this is a good indication of how the law may change here.
New Zealand's strange looking leader has an interesting bloodline if one cares to look into it.
Another piece of the jigsaw maybe?

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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 04 Jan 21 12.41pm
I don't see what the problem is it's up to people to choose what they want to do not politicians. If people choose to use what is classed as extreme methods they need to live with those actions they chose. People should pay attention to their own lifes and actions not judge others all the time if you have different value set then you go live life like that it doesn't mean everybody should do as you claim. (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]
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US/Thailand/UK 04 Jan 21 12.41pm

I don't see what the problem is it's up to people to choose what they want to do not politicians.

If people choose to use what is classed as extreme methods they need to live with those actions they chose.

People should pay attention to their own lifes and actions not judge others all the time if you have different value set then you go live life like that it doesn't mean everybody should do as you claim.

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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 12.51pm
Originally posted by grumpymort I don't see what the problem is it's up to people to choose what they want to do not politicians. If people choose to use what is classed as extreme methods they need to live with those actions they chose. People should pay attention to their own lifes and actions not judge others all the time if you have different value set then you go live life like that it doesn't mean everybody should do as you claim. Ha....Libertarianism....really worked out that one didn't it. You can't see what the problem is? Did you even fully read it? No liberty for the defenceless though hey...or even the newly born in this case. 'Hey murder babies'....it's just living by different values....even though it's being enabled by the state under request by the individual. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 12.53pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jan 21 12.51pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

I don't see what the problem is it's up to people to choose what they want to do not politicians.

If people choose to use what is classed as extreme methods they need to live with those actions they chose.

Ha....Libertarianism....really worked out that one didn't it.

You can't see what the problem is? Did you even fully read it?

No liberty for the defenceless though hey...or even the newly born in this case.

'Hey murder babies'....it's just living by different values....even though it's being enabled by the state under request by the individual.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 12.53pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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martin2412 Living The Dream 04 Jan 21 12.59pm
Apparently Ardern fought the recent election pledging to half child poverty in NZ. Looks like halving the amount of kids would assure this pledge is met.
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Living The Dream 04 Jan 21 12.59pm

Apparently Ardern fought the recent election pledging to half child poverty in NZ.

Looks like halving the amount of kids would assure this pledge is met.

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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 1.06pm
Originally posted by martin2412 Apparently Ardern fought the recent election pledging to half child poverty in NZ. Looks like halving the amount of kids would assure this pledge is met. Will bankrupt the country into the stone age ensuring that granny survives to wheeze out a couple more years. But will willingly horrifically rip the limps off the unborn to end their life before it begins. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 1.07pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jan 21 1.06pm

Originally posted by martin2412

Apparently Ardern fought the recent election pledging to half child poverty in NZ.

Looks like halving the amount of kids would assure this pledge is met.

Will bankrupt the country into the stone age ensuring that granny survives to wheeze out a couple more years.

But will willingly horrifically rip the limps off the unborn to end their life before it begins.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 1.07pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 04 Jan 21 1.12pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Ha....Libertarianism....really worked out that one didn't it. You can't see what the problem is? Did you even fully read it? No liberty for the defenceless though hey...or even the newly born in this case. 'Hey murder babies'....it's just living by different values....even though it's being enabled by the state under request by the individual. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 12.53pm) Why would I waste my time reading a media outlets take on it because we know they report the facts don't they. I see you are another drama queen when it suits How about paying attention to murders/rape/slavery that has been going on for very long time in other countries of children yet people like yourself are hush about that yet this has caused outrage. (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]
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grumpymort

US/Thailand/UK 04 Jan 21 1.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ha....Libertarianism....really worked out that one didn't it.

You can't see what the problem is? Did you even fully read it?

No liberty for the defenceless though hey...or even the newly born in this case.

'Hey murder babies'....it's just living by different values....even though it's being enabled by the state under request by the individual.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 12.53pm)

Why would I waste my time reading a media outlets take on it because we know they report the facts don't they.

I see you are another drama queen when it suits

How about paying attention to murders/rape/slavery that has been going on for very long time in other countries of children yet people like yourself are hush about that yet this has caused outrage.

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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 1.28pm
Originally posted by grumpymort Why would I waste my time reading a media outlets take on it because we know they report the facts don't they. I see you are another drama queen when it suits How about paying attention to murders/rape/slavery that has been going on for very long time in other countries of children yet people like yourself are hush about that yet this has caused outrage. You are at liberty to put your 'take' on it. Yeah, I'm happy to be called a 'drama queen' when it comes to disposing of human life like it's biological waste.....sorry about that. Why would you say that in your last paragraph? I've paid attention to and written about those things in foreign lands many times. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jan 21 1.28pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

Why would I waste my time reading a media outlets take on it because we know they report the facts don't they.

I see you are another drama queen when it suits

How about paying attention to murders/rape/slavery that has been going on for very long time in other countries of children yet people like yourself are hush about that yet this has caused outrage.

You are at liberty to put your 'take' on it.

Yeah, I'm happy to be called a 'drama queen' when it comes to disposing of human life like it's biological waste.....sorry about that.

Why would you say that in your last paragraph? I've paid attention to and written about those things in foreign lands many times.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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