Your first line, for a refreshing change, is correct. As you repeatedly confirm in your frequent contributions here, especially in this thread.

Just consider your claim that "the media is a 24 hour leftist propaganda machine." Then explain how the Mail, Sun, Express and Telegraph promote leftish propaganda?

Just about everything Trump did upset people who are more than capable of handling opposition. They upset me and even you must accept I am capable of handling opposition!. They got upset because not only were his policies disastrous, divisive and cruel they were delivered without thought or care.

There is not a thing shameful in believing that Brexit was not just a mistake but a process that was not our way of democracy and was also corrupted by foreign interference and lies. There is nothing shameful if you truly believe those things and love your country, to continue making those arguments. I was a remainder. I am now a rejoiner.

As to the denials by you, and your "gang", that there isn't any "ganging up" happening here I can assure you as the frequent recipient of such treatment that it isn't true. Of course, you are in denial and perhaps even unaware, but seen from someone who receives it you need to know you aren't correct. Don't misunderstand me. I am not complaining. I have an immediate and simple remedy in my own hands. But whilst that would pour scorn on those who argue for unrestrained free speech it would also mean that another voice of reason would have been forced out by the shouting from the disproportionately large number of fringe right opinion who populate this place. So in the interests of trying to offer some support to the brave souls who put up, not just with the warped opinions but with the abuse which frequently accompanies them, I continue. That others don't like my style causes me some amusement, so there is always a smile to be found. You provide quite a few.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Glad this thread came about. I just wanted to offer an apology. I was so pssd off on Inauguration Day. The ol Jack Daniels came out! But I woke up the next day and, well, all I can say is that I still beleive in it all. So I appologise for wasting your time regarding the big day but I can say hand on heart I Still beleive it all still and my reasons are -

I have since realised trump needed to be fully out of power. Wasn’t on the day. Military had to have sole control. Also when things do happen people won’t be questioning trump. They’ll be questioning military or the Biden administration only Which is the entire point.

Some weird happenings to back up my thoughts, - more troops are being brought in as we speak. Why?

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Trump left with a big smile, 17 flags behind him - 17th letter is? All previous presidents looked absolutely knackered and depressed. They looked scared.

Harris put her purse between her hand before swearing on the bible. Very strange sight.

The Vatican is falling apart as I said, former Vatican account just been put away for 9 years for laundering. It’s all connected

YouTube has been up to no good:

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If you find time, these eye opening:

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^ both a good watch and fully explain my thinking.

On that note, I know you won’t even click on half the above, and after the inauguration spectacle,I don’t expect you too

Once again, appologies but I’ll still be punching from this angle as I know soon, I’ll be proved right. Not that it’s about that. I want it to be over too

But, a pandemic, track n trace apps able to be used, tek in place conveniently in same era, media hated trump ever since he ran as republican. Sorry. More to it all. Much more.

Military is in dc now and they are growing in numbers. Something is happening

I’ll leave it here. Lol

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This site playing up? Im stuck on page 10. just saying .

You do indeed only see what you wish to see! As you conclusively prove with this post.

I don't think Biden did anything of the sort on Wednesday.

He called out white supremacists, racism and lies.

If in the past he has compared some of those who call themselves "conservatives", Nazis, then he had every right to do so because it's a pretty accurate way to describe some of the views that get pushed around on hard-right sites. The vast majority of people would, I believe, agree with him and only those who have some sympathy for such views could possibly disagree.

That the social media companies are, at last, tackling those who go too far by calling for violence in a democracy has nothing to do with Biden. That he likely supports them is only because it is overdue and common sense.

You frequently refer to "conservatives" and "real conservatives" as though you are the arbiter of what these words really mean.

Well, I for one, disagree. I regard myself as a real conservative. I believe in fiscal responsibility, in running a deficit only in times of emergency (such as now) but in normal times in balancing the books. I believe the state should only do what we can do better collectively than we can do separately. I believe in capitalism and entrepreneurship as the way to encourage enterprise and hard work. Some people are smarter than others and we must harness that smartness, to the benefit of all.

I also believe none of us should over-consume if others don't have enough of what they need to survive in decency, through no fault of their own. Conservatism doesn't exclude being socially responsible and is perfectly compatible with a modern welfare state. You don't become "leftish" or "socialist" when you believe such things. You remain a conservative. Just one who has realised you can no longer rely on charity as a means of protecting the vulnerable. The state has a role to play.

Here in the UK the Conservative Party has always been a "broad church" with views such as yours on the furthest right fringe and mine on the left. I have no authority to claim the soul of conservatism but for sure neither do you. Your frequent references in these pages to your opinion being that of a "real" conservative is nothing of the sort. It is just your opinion.

The same will, I believe, now be seen in the USA where the softer, non-Trumpian Republicans will start to exert their authority again, now the nightmare of the last 4 years is behind them. Of course, they will face opposition as Trump very obviously still has a lot of support, but the next few months will show us just how much damage he did to himself with his stupidity in the last few months. Trump never was a "real" conservative of any kind. Nor indeed, in my opinion, are many of those who follow him. They are not political thinkers in any real sense. They either like or dislike things, depending on how it affects them personally. The rest can go to hell. Much like Trump himself.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Obviously my laptop is playing up maple, or i"m being censored by mods who said they know who i am-or rather was! Thats why i just posted stuck on page 10, i could see a couple of posters had posted but my page wouldnt let me get that far!so if you see the same post 2 or 3 times by me, its because i press send and nothing happens, so press again and hey presto, i have 2 posts!

I did try an click on a link the other night, only to see it was about 379 kb long -if thats the correct term-sounded like it would eat my data-so didn"t bother-although i did guess the number thing would happen-said so in my post, only i picked number 7!Anyway, as someone predicted, you have moved the goalposts, the revolution is still on, only the dates have changed-who knew?