While I appreciate these scenes you are using the individuals within it rather than celebrating them. It's hardly representative, it's an edited white British highlight reel from a different time and from a Youtube Channel that routinely seeks to demean and differentiate non whites at every turn rather than also show them in a positive light. Basically you perpetually do what you accuse the full on activists of others races of doing.

We could easily show selective clips of various races together at a football match singing in unison in support of their team, or a smiling mixed race couple walking arm in arm down a street. That would just be called propaganda though.

You compare these scenes to a future that you aren't seeking to see any positive in whatsoever, as you don't connect with other races. You're mentally picturing the worst of what people can be on one hand and comparing it to a 'chocolate box' highlight reel from a time before you were even alive on the other. Your contributions seek to marganlise and demonise the role and place of non whites in society, with the occasional self serving free pass for those in total lockstep with your politics.

Edited by BlueJay (20 Feb 2021 5.31pm)

My word you really do have a hard time admitting you are wrong, the whole debate really started from the below and yes i did want to him to discuss a percentage within a percentage to create a fair comparison of why you would stereotype one group and not stereotype another. Now what please tell, because I don't know what point of mine do you think you are debating against?

"Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think it is a stretch to brand millions of people as far right loons because a few thousand are.
I think stereotyping usually requires a disproportion of characteristics that are way above the average. A hugely disproportionate propensity to knife crime for example.
Equally, sometimes stereotyping is just a lazy reference or a political weapon.
Branding anyone who objects to mass immigration or who wanted to leave the EU as a racist is an example of the latter. And of course, not all people who wanted to leave the EU or object to mass immigration are White.

You see this is where you and me differ I think it is a stretch to stereotypically brand any set of people or community by a sub set of that people/community.

I think stereotyping requires people to judge the many by the actions of the few, you hint at the black community has having a disproportionate propensity for knife crime and yes the news does report the perpetrators as black but what actual percentage of the community is that do you know? How many are repeat offenders do you also know that, so the point I'm making it could be any percentage.

You say "it is a stretch to brand millions of people as far right loons because a few thousand are" but would that be a comparable percentage between the members of the black the community committing knife crime and the thousands far right loons in comparison to the millions. Until you know those facts you can't seemingly support one stereotype and defend another.

Your opinion of the channel in question has no relevance to the video.

In what sense are the people within it not 'representative' of the genetically British?

It depends upon the point you would be making....one man's propaganda is another's statement of fact.

I'm not seeking the 'positive' within the terms that you endorse no.

What I do endorse is that whites simply start seeing themselves as a collective group in the same way all other groups do within society due to the increased disenfranchising ahead: Nothing more, nothing less.

You describe my relating of facts as 'marginalizing and demonising', whereas I don't agree that's true. Indeed, I believe that is exactly what you do yourself to anyone who opposes your globalised liberalist agenda....calling me a Nazi for example, a highly inaccurate depiction, but nevertheless one you were happy to use to suit your demonisation.

If my opinions were purely race based, which they aren't then there would be no room for non whites who agreed with my positions: Yet there are.

So your contention falls flat on its face, despite your attempt to include it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2021 5.38pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

There you go:

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I understand your logic but would argue that when members of a demographic which makes up only 3% of a population commits 80% of total violent crime, that would not have equivalence with 0.0001 percent of the White population being members of far right wing groups.

Ok but if it's going to be a fair comparison what percentage of the total 3% actually commit those crimes?

So the disproportionate number of black footballers receiving online racist abuse could cause much stereotyping and resentment fair?

I was drawing a parallel?