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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 20 Nov 21 6.49pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And she was useless, never spent many billions on crap or started a war!
Very disappointing debut

Thats all for her proper debut mate, second standing obvs!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Nov 21 7.48pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Thats all for her proper debut mate, second standing obvs!

Rumours that sleepy isn't overly enamoured with her and wants to unload her. Imagine the woke,BLM,portland massive reaction if he did and replaced her with a white person.
PMSL at the hole this lot are digging.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 20 Nov 21 7.54pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Rumours that sleepy isn't overly enamoured with her and wants to unload her. Imagine the woke,BLM,portland massive reaction if he did and replaced her with a white person.
PMSL at the hole this lot are digging.

Enjoy it mate, they can dig a hole, but are still running the ship, remind you of anyone?

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, that could be argued about the people out there that night....if they hadn't been out there threatening and damaging businesses then Rittenhouse wouldn't have been there.

If the Democrats had done their jobs in respect of law enforcement then it's also true that none of it would have happened either.

Also once again, Rittenhouse was asked to help, and that's evidenced in the trial....it's not as though no one asked him.

That's obvious whataboutism! The people he killed were, so far as I am aware, local. Were they even protesting, let alone "threatening and damaging businesses"? If they were then they were the responsibility of law enforcement and not some self-appointed, out of town, gun-toting, vigilante even if a local business welcomed him. Although that sounds more than a little contrived. The plain fact is the kid travelled a long way, armed and looking for trouble, and was not invited to go. If he had been, he should have refused. It was not his business.

The constant allegations of the "Democrats not doing their jobs" is risible. At the very worst, it's a handful of local politicians either not providing sufficient resources for law enforcement to do their jobs, or, extremely improbably, giving instructions that they should not do their jobs.

This isn't the policy of the DNC. Why on earth would it be? It would be madness. The accusations are just political mudslinging, which have the consequential effect of winding up people like this kid who can then, with the lack of effective gun laws, create the situation for which he was undoubtedly responsible for creating.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Rumours that sleepy isn't overly enamoured with her and wants to unload her. Imagine the woke,BLM,portland massive reaction if he did and replaced her with a white person.
PMSL at the hole this lot are digging.

Kamala and I love each other, and that's all you need to know.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 21 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Excuses for abuses.

More pure wafflery.

No one needs to protect inoffensive speech....Stalin was never concerned by inoffensive speech....oh and hate speech is a modern term dreamt up by leftists to....in more cases than not take people's liberties away and stop criticism of their stances.

Waffling on about speech restrictions is actually a very dangerous position. There was nothing wrong with the laws we had in this country for centuries.....Blair started the restrictions.

We now live in a country that is less free than the one I grew up in....and more pointedly the one you grew up in as you are apparently over 25 years older.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 5.18pm)

We have a breakthrough and can agree about something!

No-one needs to protect inoffensive speech. So does this mean you now agree that we do need to protect against grossly offensive speech. As I do?

If so, all we need to do is determine what is grossly offensive, and what isn't. That has changed over the years as we have become more adept at recognising what is grossly offensive.

There will always be disagreements about what is, and what is not, grossly offensive. That's healthy. But we ought to be able to agree about some basic concepts. Like encouraging violence of any kind. Or sedition. Indeed, Rule 8 of this very site contains many of the things that most people now find grossly offensive.

Just because some people find something offensive is not, in my opinion, enough to restrict it. It has to be something that can cause real harm.

Yes, it's different to my youth. Back then, people with black skins were openly called w*gs, or n*ggers. Even the most racist among us would blanch at that today. So it's much better.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Some people want to stop it dead. Ask Kathleen Stock or J. K. Rowling.

Some people want all sorts of things.

Doesn't mean they are right, or that they will get what they want.

Nor does it mean that others, who want some of what those people want, are wrong.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Nov 21 9.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's obvious whataboutism! The people he killed were, so far as I am aware, local. Were they even protesting, let alone "threatening and damaging businesses"? If they were then they were the responsibility of law enforcement and not some self-appointed, out of town, gun-toting, vigilante even if a local business welcomed him. Although that sounds more than a little contrived. The plain fact is the kid travelled a long way, armed and looking for trouble, and was not invited to go. If he had been, he should have refused. It was not his business.

The constant allegations of the "Democrats not doing their jobs" is risible. At the very worst, it's a handful of local politicians either not providing sufficient resources for law enforcement to do their jobs, or, extremely improbably, giving instructions that they should not do their jobs.

This isn't the policy of the DNC. Why on earth would it be? It would be madness. The accusations are just political mudslinging, which have the consequential effect of winding up people like this kid who can then, with the lack of effective gun laws, create the situation for which he was undoubtedly responsible for creating.

It's only whataboutism if you regard double standards as fine.

Actually most of those dudes who attacked Rittenhouse had a further trek to get there than he did....so you're basically talking out of your Cornwall again. Rittenhouse was asked to turn up and was cleaning graffiti off of his workplace for most of that day.

As for your excuses for Democratic politicians not properly using Police enforcement during that 18 month period....which everyone other than an idiot or liar knows was deliberate policy......Well, I think you know for well why that was done and I don't want to fill up this post with the obvious reasons why because they have been said many times.

It is in fact true that if these places had been enforced there would have been no incident like this....in fact all of the places that saw significant rioting for 18 months were Democrat run.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 9.19pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Nov 21 9.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We have a breakthrough and can agree about something!

No-one needs to protect inoffensive speech. So does this mean you now agree that we do need to protect against grossly offensive speech. As I do?

If so, all we need to do is determine what is grossly offensive, and what isn't. That has changed over the years as we have become more adept at recognising what is grossly offensive.

There will always be disagreements about what is, and what is not, grossly offensive. That's healthy. But we ought to be able to agree about some basic concepts. Like encouraging violence of any kind. Or sedition. Indeed, Rule 8 of this very site contains many of the things that most people now find grossly offensive.

Just because some people find something offensive is not, in my opinion, enough to restrict it. It has to be something that can cause real harm.

Yes, it's different to my youth. Back then, people with black skins were openly called w*gs, or n*ggers. Even the most racist among us would blanch at that today. So it's much better.

There was no requirement to restrict free speech from the laws that already existed.

Laws that enable Police to turn up at someone's door telling them to 'check their privilege' is not progress. Laws that mean action can be taken by Police just on the 'perception' of offence...not intent...are in my view a disgrace to have on the books.

Laws were already there for bad behaviour and that included insults you don't like.

So no, there is no way I agree with your support for today's fear culture. This is no longer an honest society and I don't regard that as healthy....and it leaves it far more open to manipulation as we are seeing in Cricket.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 9.30pm)

 


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Originally posted by croydon proud

Enjoy it mate, they can dig a hole, but are still running the ship, remind you of anyone?


The very best chance that the Republicans would have of winning in 2024 would be if Harris were president.

She isn't even liked in the Democrat party let alone nationally....just looking at her candidate results showed that.

I can't seriously believe that the Democrats would run with her.....because they would have to seriously rig the election to win.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Some people want all sorts of things.

Doesn't mean they are right, or that they will get what they want.

Nor does it mean that others, who want some of what those people want, are wrong.

They have got what they wanted. One lost her job and the other has been prevented from attending the anniversary celebration of her own creation.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Nov 21 9.40pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Enjoy it mate, they can dig a hole, but are still running the ship, remind you of anyone?

There is a difference. One got voted in properly,legally and above board and will again.
The other is biden and the dems.

 

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