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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's only whataboutism if you regard double standards as fine.

Actually most of those dudes who attacked Rittenhouse had a further trek to get there than he did....so you're basically talking out of your Cornwall again. Rittenhouse was asked to turn up and was cleaning graffiti off of his workplace for most of that day.

As for your excuses for Democratic politicians not properly using Police enforcement during that 18 month period....which everyone other than an idiot or liar knows was deliberate policy......Well, I think you know for well why that was done and I don't want to fill up this post with the obvious reasons why because they have been said many times.

It is in fact true that if these places had been enforced there would have been no incident like this....in fact all of the places that saw significant rioting for 18 months for Democrat run.

"Dudes attacked Rittenhouse"!!! A guy armed with a skateboard attacks someone armed with a semi-automatic rifle! Much more likely trying to protect themselves by disarming him. I know the defence convinced the jury to acquit him, but only about what could, beyond a
reasonable doubt, have been in his head at the moment he pulled the trigger. Not who was attacking who.

There was a group there. 3 got shot. 2 died. You know where all of them came from? I have seen nothing at all about where they each came from, but carrying a skateboard suggests a local to me. If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it.

Rittenhouse was NOT asked to turn up! Not by anyone with any authority to ask. He went looking for trouble. If asked, he should have refused.

Show me where the DNC has stated that it's policy on law enforcement is to encourage rioting and the destruction of property! Quite the reverse is true. They have condemned it.

All you are doing is spreading the propaganda. Aka lies. So who is actually the liar? It's a deliberate policy of the Trump wing of the Republican Party to use these kinds of slurs to wind up the extreme right nutjobs and encourage confrontations to develop.

I am actually quite surprised that you fall for it hook line and sinker. You are much more of a mackerel, snapping at any shiny lure, than a wily old bass who is very cautious about anything that looks too good to be true.

The reason that the places that have seen the rioting are controlled by Democrats is not because they are controlled by Democrats. It's because Democrats generally control inner-city areas of deprivation and racial tension, and that's where the incidents which caused the rioting took place.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 21 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There was no requirement to restrict free speech from the laws that already existed.

Laws that enable Police to turn up at someone's door telling them to 'check their privilege' is not progress. Laws that mean action can be taken by Police just on the 'perception' of offence...not intent...are in my view a disgrace to have on the books.

Laws were already there for bad behaviour and that included insults you don't like.

So no, there is no way I agree with your support for today's fear culture. This is no longer an honest society and I don't regard that as healthy....and it leaves it far more open to manipulation as we are seeing in Cricket.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 9.30pm)

We can disagree on the detail. I might even agree with you that some things have gone too far.

The breakthrough is that, finally, we have a recognition that unrestricted free speech in a democracy cannot exist.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

"Dudes attacked Rittenhouse"!!! A guy armed with a skateboard attacks someone armed with a semi-automatic rifle! Much more likely trying to protect themselves by disarming him. I know the defence convinced the jury to acquit him, but only about what could, beyond a
reasonable doubt, have been in his head at the moment he pulled the trigger. Not who was attacking who.

There was a group there. 3 got shot. 2 died. You know where all of them came from? I have seen nothing at all about where they each came from, but carrying a skateboard suggests a local to me. If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it.

Rittenhouse was NOT asked to turn up! Not by anyone with any authority to ask. He went looking for trouble. If asked, he should have refused.

Show me where the DNC has stated that it's policy on law enforcement is to encourage rioting and the destruction of property! Quite the reverse is true. They have condemned it.

All you are doing is spreading the propaganda. Aka lies. So who is actually the liar? It's a deliberate policy of the Trump wing of the Republican Party to use these kinds of slurs to wind up the extreme right nutjobs and encourage confrontations to develop.

I am actually quite surprised that you fall for it hook line and sinker. You are much more of a mackerel, snapping at any shiny lure, than a wily old bass who is very cautious about anything that looks too good to be true.

The reason that the places that have seen the rioting are controlled by Democrats is not because they are controlled by Democrats. It's because Democrats generally control inner-city areas of deprivation and racial tension, and that's where the incidents which caused the rioting took place.

Stirling admits himself he ‘woke up’ in 2016. Coincidentally the same time he started regurgitating lazy far right propaganda on here.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Stirling admits himself he ‘woke up’ in 2016. Coincidentally the same time he started regurgitating lazy far right propaganda on here.

It's all you have isn't it.

Why do you bother to post at all when all you do is slur?

It's pathetic mate.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

"Dudes attacked Rittenhouse"!!! A guy armed with a skateboard attacks someone armed with a semi-automatic rifle! Much more likely trying to protect themselves by disarming him. I know the defence convinced the jury to acquit him, but only about what could, beyond a
reasonable doubt, have been in his head at the moment he pulled the trigger. Not who was attacking who.

There was a group there. 3 got shot. 2 died. You know where all of them came from? I have seen nothing at all about where they each came from, but carrying a skateboard suggests a local to me. If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it.

Rittenhouse was NOT asked to turn up! Not by anyone with any authority to ask. He went looking for trouble. If asked, he should have refused.

Show me where the DNC has stated that it's policy on law enforcement is to encourage rioting and the destruction of property! Quite the reverse is true. They have condemned it.

All you are doing is spreading the propaganda. Aka lies. So who is actually the liar? It's a deliberate policy of the Trump wing of the Republican Party to use these kinds of slurs to wind up the extreme right nutjobs and encourage confrontations to develop.

I am actually quite surprised that you fall for it hook line and sinker. You are much more of a mackerel, snapping at any shiny lure, than a wily old bass who is very cautious about anything that looks too good to be true.

The reason that the places that have seen the rioting are controlled by Democrats is not because they are controlled by Democrats. It's because Democrats generally control inner-city areas of deprivation and racial tension, and that's where the incidents which caused the rioting took place.

What a joke, the liar calls me a liar.

What a surprise.

Everything I said is true.....Research it if you don't believe me. I get fed up being asked to do work for others.

I don't lie.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 10.11pm)

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Stirling admits himself he ‘woke up’ in 2016. Coincidentally the same time he started regurgitating lazy far right propaganda on here.

I was being called a Nazi on here by Nick Gusset in 2015. That was when I was a default conservative normie.

He actually turned me onto looking into the dissident right, which you call 'far right'.

While there are somethings in there which I don't agree with and that I'm basically on the left in those ideologies the reality is that most of the things they believe in are basically social conservatism and little different from the Tories in the eighties.

The fact that you think that's 'far right' says it all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 10.07pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We can disagree on the detail. I might even agree with you that some things have gone too far.

The breakthrough is that, finally, we have a recognition that unrestricted free speech in a democracy cannot exist.

It's hardly a breakthrough as everyone knows that the term 'free speech' has never been absolutist....for practical reasons.

The bar for action however was set as low as possible to allow as much liberty as possible to flow....and that was a free society.

That cannot be said for today.

Today information is increasingly under corporate one message control.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 10.21pm)

 


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Tell you what Dan.

I'd never turn someone down from a job because they didn't fit some 'racial mix' requirement.

That's on you mate.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Tell you what Dan.

I'd never turn someone down from a job because they didn't fit some 'racial mix' requirement.

That's on you mate.

Hahahahaha. We’ve been through this a thousand times.

Got a white British guy starting on Monday that I hired if it makes you happier.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I was being called a Nazi on here by Nick Gusset in 2015. That was when I was a default conservative normie.

He actually turned me onto looking into the dissident right, which you call 'far right'.

While there are somethings in there which I don't agree with and that I'm basically on the left in those ideologies the reality is that most of the things they believe in are basically social conservatism and little different from the Tories in the eighties.

The fact that you think that's 'far right' says it all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 10.07pm)

I don’t think you are far right, I think you’re actually quite measured most the time and attempt to be rational in your thinking which is way more than most people are.

Where you do get questionable and where I like to press your buttons is some of the ‘evidence’ you post you claim as fact and questionable definitions of Englishness but I know you’re a good bloke.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Hahahahaha. We’ve been through this a thousand times.

Got a white British guy starting on Monday that I hired if it makes you happier.

Your words my man.

But cool.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 10.31pm)

 


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Originally posted by DanH

I don’t think you are far right, I think you’re actually quite measured most the time and attempt to be rational in your thinking which is way more than most people are.

Where you do get questionable and where I like to press your buttons is some of the ‘evidence’ you post you claim as fact and questionable definitions of Englishness but I know you’re a good bloke.


The more I've learnt about both the left and right I think there is actually quite a lot they agree on that's against the dominant corporate neo liberalism.

But obviously on their centre piece issues they are on the opposite....one is globalist and the other nationalist.

Still, considering that neither of them actually have any power....well sure, the elected left have institutional power and media power in the States but their grass roots know that they are controlled by the elites and corporates just as much as the Republicans and Tories are.

It's more than a head shake to know that while Biden was attending the Cop26 jollyfest signing yet more pointless papers that will do nothing in reality.....Nancy Pelosi was centre piece at the marriage of an oil baron's family member.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2021 10.42pm)

 


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